Punch Stats do not lie...Team Pac better have a plan B!

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  1. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    I'm not doing partial fights, but whole fights. And I'm not comparing those fighters to Pac Man, but the numbers...keep up.
     
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  2. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    The Oscar decision was bull****...period...he wasn't even hitting Floyd...so that reasoning is flawed. Punch stats CAN lie, but here, they DON'T.
     
    Zavy, Dec 22, 2009
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  3. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Plenty of times.....just watch the Cotto fight.
     
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  4. josak

    josak Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The numbers don't mean anything. What do they prove? That Oscar Hatton and Marquez had trouble hitting Floyd - 3 fighters who don't hold any similarities to Pacquaio.

    Again, go dig up the punch stats from Corley and Judah which are a lot more relevant since those are southpaws.
     
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  5. charlievint

    charlievint Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Oscar found Floyd plenty.....not as much as he threw but when is that ever the case? The fight with DLH forced Floyd to switch things up...Floyd won, but it was very close.
     
    charlievint, Dec 22, 2009
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  6. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    That **** wasn't close at all...Oscar used ineffective aggression...threw 100 more and hit 100 less...a blind man could see this **** was only close on bull**** cards.
     
    Zavy, Dec 22, 2009
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  7. Zavy

    Zavy A fan among experts Full Member

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    FIGHTERS Judah Mayweather TOTAL PUNCHES Thrown 444 404 Connected 82 188 % 18% 47%

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    Zavy, Dec 22, 2009
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  8. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    nice observation...I think what you say is meaningful from a training standpoint as well...Nice post and thanks for the stats...
     
    sdsfinest22, Dec 22, 2009
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  9. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    lol..oscar found floyd plenty...oscar landed an amazing 11 punches per round on floyd...that is hardly plenty charlievint...jlc did a good job on floyd in the first fight from a punch stat view...oscar did a horrible job
     
    sdsfinest22, Dec 22, 2009
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  10. Thread Stealer

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    Compubox is a bunch of ****.

    That being said, it's obvious that Mayweather is difficult to hit cleanly. The defensive moves, the intelligence to know what shots are coming, the reflexes to avoid them, the ability to control the pace.

    I think Pacquiao has touched up on some of the rough edges and is more well-rounded. He's got a better variety of shots and isn't as wild as he used to be. But it's not as if he's suddenly a totally different fighter, and I think Mayweather will exploit some of the weaknesses that Pacquiao has shown in the past.
     
    Thread Stealer, Dec 22, 2009
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  11. kalunya5964

    kalunya5964 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Nope, It was reported then that Pac rehydrated to 147 lbs after weighing only 129 at the official weigh-in. Pac was obviously sluggish in that fight, probably the effect of gaining too much weight (18 lbs) in a matter of 24 hrs.
     
    kalunya5964, Dec 22, 2009
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  12. Thread Stealer

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    The HBO unofficial scale had it at 145.

    What reports had it at 147?

    Either way, it's unofficial, maybe he was weighed twice unofficially on the day of the fight and once was after a meal or with a sweater on.

    Regardless, putting on 16 or 18 lbs. in less than 32 hours is a lot.

    The fight I thought Pacquiao looked bad during the weigh-in at 130 was the fight before, in the Barrera rematch. He looked pretty drained.
     
    Thread Stealer, Dec 22, 2009
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