Punching mechanics midsection stretch kinetic chain

Stretching helps. Strong core very important.

 

I’ve never even heard of a kinetic chain mid section stretch and I have a decent to good grasp of human movement.

In my opinion the main ingredient of good punchers is leverage and striking technique. Power is an expression of strength and speed, some fighters lie more on one side of the strength speed continuum, so Wilder, Tommy Hearns, etc guys who can generate explosive power.

Then you have the heavy handed strong punchers like Foreman, Joshua, GGG, Rungvisai etc. These guys aren’t the fastest but they gain excellent leverage on their shots.

Not sure if that helps but imo leverage which is getting a good centre of mass, getting your core engaged and turning your punches over can make even a guy with average physical genetic punch well and hard.

 

No expert in this regard but do know that the kinetic chain is important for power transference for the lower body to the upper body. You can have the strong base for leverage and good punching technique but if your mid section is weak then you'll lose power because energy will be lost while transferring the power from the feet towards your fist.

Imagine it as a garden hose, the water travels along the length of the hose but if there are holes in the hose then water is lost. So if your mid section is weak then the power you generate from your feet will not reach your fist or at least a lot of it will be lost during the transfer to the fist just like the water through the holes in the hose.

In powerlifting they talk a lot about power leakage. This is when weaknesses in technique or your body can result in power loss through a certain lifting movement and I think in regards to punching a similar thing can happen. In throwing a punch the power leakage could be from a weak midsection or another physical weakness or poor punching mechanics/technique.

 

first off, dealt_with is a dumbass fanboy who dksab, so dont take anything he says serious. as far as your midsections role in punching, it is the rotation of the midsection that adds power and speed to a punch. to get the most out of a punch, it should start at your feet, firmly planted, then you push off to start the transfer of energy, it moves up your legs to the midsection which is simultaneously turning your shoulders to whip your arm in the direction of the punch, clenching your fist to create a rock that will transfer all the energy as you snap your elbow almost to hyperextension. all the muscles used, from calves to thighs to core to shoulder, to tricep to the final snap of the elbow and wrist, will add power to the punch as you strengthen them.
if what mikey garcia says is true, that he doesnt do any situps in training, then i would advise him to start doing them if he wants to punch like a welter. his increase in power will be obvious after 3 months of hard training of the midsection.

 

I think timing and especially judgement of distance are two key factors too, meaning the punch is thrown at an open target at a range which allows maximum impact. Effective punching power is not entirely a physical thing, I suspect....

 

I think you are going deeper into the topic, like what it takes to be a puncher. That will bring in stuff like you said timing, positioning, punching with what Cus would have said bad intentions all kinds of different things. Of course you ain’t wrong, but I was thinking he meant what made a puncher from a purely physical stand point. So someone who can hit the bag hard etc.

 

Mikey is actually someone who gets excellent leverage on shots. Even his jabs, involve a lot of energy transfer from his feet to his hands, they are thudding and he tries to punch through you with them. He never really doubles and triples up on them if you notice because he tries to get a lot of power into each one.

 

Yeah, true but we tend to judge punchers from what they do in the heat of battle - knock outs - rather than their purely physical capability. I'm pretty sure the punches that an opponent doesn't see are more hurtful because they can't react, and after all it takes two to make a knock out.

I think it was Cus who also said if punches make contact with four or five different places - almost irrespective of power -in rapid succession that could cause a fighter to get knocked out because the central nervous system goes into a form of over load, although I'm not sure about the science of this.

I know you're focusing on objective power but in the real world setting of a fight, a lot goes into why some people get stoppages and others don't....

 

Ohh no doubt, if he is talking about transferable power then a whole mental, genetic and technical elements comes into it. However that would be so hard to explain and I don’t anyone really has a full answer of how it is some people hit harder than others, all we have are examples mechanics and anecdotal information from trainers and fighters. It’s a very fascinating topic but it’s depends if that’s what the OP is after. He seem really content to find out about this mid section kinetic stretch chain thing lol

 

Yeah, I know but that's outta my comfort zone... lol

 

mikeys technique is almost flawless, thats why he can hit so solidly, but strengthening his core, which he says he doesnt do, would add power and speed to the turning of his shoulders, which in turn adds power and speed to the arm delivering the punch.
if you put a 2x4 across your shoulders, then swing that 2x4 from one side to the other, you will feel the strain on the midsection and the muscles one uses to push or swing your arm in the direction you want to punch. stronger muscles mean a faster, harder swing. the midsection also acts as an anchor from which the punch gets its stability. you need a stable base to keep the energy from the punch from traveling back at you, thats why you cant punch hard on roller skates.

 

You are correct, getting full rotation in your core helps with force production. Mikey seems to get good rotation whenever I have seen throw body shots, I’m not sure that sit ups would help with that, to be honest I think sit ups are becoming redundant as crunches only work the core one way. I’m not sure if him saying he doesn’t do sit up means the same thing as him saying he doesn’t work the core. Med throws against the walls, chopping wood, med ball slams against the floor are way more effective ways of working out the core to produce more force than sit ups imo.