Punching power?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by baconmaker, Apr 22, 2014.


  1. stormy

    stormy Live and Learn Full Member

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    I had a guy who, when he first walked into my gym.....he punched like a girl. Seriously. I corrected his technique and then .....he still punched like a girl.


    Then 3-4 months later he started hitting a bit harder and kept raising his own power levels until now.

    Now he can bang harder than a lot of the bigger guys in the gym.

    He was always a strong guy.

    He just learned to time his body parts to work in unison,all the way the way to the the target area.

    Power starts from the soles of your feet, and travels along a specific pathway. Some of you people are using the term timing,but im thinking some of you have no idea what it means.None.:deal:huh:think
     
  2. elchivito

    elchivito master betty Full Member

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    Tommy Hearns nor Tito Trinidad were punchers in the ams. They became legendary punchers. Punchers are made or else there would be no need to learn it in a boxing gym.
     
  3. shavers

    shavers Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Everybody can improve their power to a certain point. However, the real great bombers, are born with that extra percentage of power.....
     
  4. Adil

    Adil Active Member Full Member

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    I agree with ALL comments.
    Power is a combination of all - nature and nurture.
    Take GGG. Abel explained in his recent interview that he does not specifically increase power. They work more on timing and balance to capitalise on power. He also claims GGG has never yet put his 5th gear, he saves it for bigger fights. Well, let's see.
     
  5. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There's a thing to be said, that is never took in consideration.

    To be a ko artist you need a CHIN.

    That's what really makes peoples like Matthysse and Marciano powerful destroyers: they can put all they have behind every punch without having to worry about being hit back.

    Many glass jawed boxers have as much or more power than anyone else, but they are packing glass, and they know it, and every time they get hit they fell dizzy, so they have to hold back.

    There's really only one difference between a ko artist and one with low ko, it's the chin.
     
  6. Adil

    Adil Active Member Full Member

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    Good point. Having good chin provides a good mindset. Look at Pacquiao recent performances, he's become more cautious and less reckless, therefore his KO% dropped.

    Also let's put into equation the level of an opponent. A high skilled opponent will make you respect his power, he will **** with your mindset, hit your arms, occupy you. The same left hooks thrown by Stevens at GGG seemed hard but they weren't in reality - he was throwing them at the backfoot not utilising his legs, and GGG was hitting Stevens's left arm continuously to take out the power.
     
  7. RememberingC.S.

    RememberingC.S. Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Another good point. Bones to bones are drammatically more destructive on a chin- the difference between hitting something and hitting something with a pillow. A kick to the head could probably be the hardest blow to suffer.
    That's also one of the reasons kos are more common in MMA: apart being hit with direct elbows, knees and other tough parts of the body, their gloves are 4-6 onces of padding. Featherweight gloves on cruiserweight athletes. Boom.
     
  8. TheGreenlad

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    Like who?I've never heard of anyone with good technique and cant punch, someone like you would say malignaggi but malignaggi has poor technique lots of arm punches, mayweather also has good technique not the best but has ok power, look at all the cubans the most technical team in the world and all can punch really really hard
     
  9. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You just answered your own question. Mayweather is the quintessential example of someone with technique that will never be a banger. Sure he can catch lightning in a bottle from time to time but that doesn't mean he is a banger.

    There is a huge difference between being able to punch and being a banger, really hard is not a banger. You dont get the difference because you are stupid.

    A banger does not need perfect technique to KTFO someone, see Ernie Shavers.
     
  10. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Quit trying to move the bar you ****ing dumbass. I never once said "punch hard" I'm talking about bangers.

    I would argue that the very definition of a banger would be someone who doesn't need perfect technique to "punch hard". Guys who are dangerous even when their feet are not planted, even when they cant commit to a punch, even when the blow glances, those guys are bangers.
     
  11. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    Like an earlier post has hinted to, being a KO artist in boxing is not entirely down to 'pure punch power'. That's the mistake many are making here and life is just not that simple unfortunately.

    Chin, for a start, means that not only does one develop an 'invincible' mind set (very important for focus and execution) because they are rarely shook but also they get the opportunity to survive mistakes and MAKE the KO's happen.

    Punching is, in my experience, almost entirely down to a trainable technique. Yes, some are 'gifted' and can train to deliver a more powerful/physically damaging blow. Yes, fast twitch blah blah blah.
    Some are saying that 'no-one can train to be Usain Bolt' as if that has ANY relevance: People can train to be within 5-10% of Usain Bolt so there's absolutely no argument there for someone not being able to train to be either a fast sprinter or a 'heavy' puncher!

    Let's bear in mind that there are many punching activities that aren't prize-fighting. There are people out there who have trained many decades (not just a couple over a career) on perfecting punching and I doubt any one of them tells someone after a week of training "Sorry kid, you just ain't born with it".
     
  12. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Being within 5-10% of an elite athlete is not even being close.

    Within 10% of Usain bolt is a 10.54. That is not even the same league.
     
  13. rodney

    rodney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look at his calves ???
    What are you --- GAY.
    Calves have nothing to do with punching power.
    And by the way --- Pac isnt a big puncher.
     
  14. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think Tommy Hearns proves your theory to be wrong.
     
  15. FartWristedBum

    FartWristedBum I walk this Earth like a bum Full Member

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    OK, you'll be fine with a right hand from someone who can 'only' punch with 90% of the power of Tyson then........or....ummm......you've COMPLETELY missed the point.

    Of course it's in the same league!!! It's really quick. Get it?