Punching Strength BOXERS VS MMA

Think some of you guys are getting off the topic, which is related to punching strength and not about which is the most effective form of combat. For sure boxers punch harder because punching is their main focus as someone has previously mentioned and it is really effective if you are within punching range. I'm not sure if MMA is a sport or whether it encompass every other style of fighting on top of boxing. Boxers like Trinidad, Tszyu, etc... have been criticised for being too one dimensional but, isn't boxing even more one dimensional compared to a fighting style where there are no limits to what you can use? Imagine Tyson learning a few simple kicks, grappling, take-down techniques, etc... on top of his boxing. Wouldn't he be an even more effective fighter than someone who could only punch? I think some of your analogies are flawed in that you are comparing people to other people with different strengths, age, weight, talent, etc... because various factors (other than the style) could affect the outcome of a fight between a boxer and a MMA. However, if you were just comparing styles by taking a person and only train him in boxing with the same person and train him in boxing, grappling, kicking etc... then it's obvious to me which is the more well-rounded form of combat.

 

MMA fighters, well not to generlise lack punching technique.

Perhaps just because the way that you have to line up yo avoid kick's or MMA style punch's is different. But they do not punch as hard as boxers in the most part I would think due to the lack of technique.

 

Well he would have a point if he was referencing kickboxing or muay thai because throwing kicks on your toes makes it the kick more powerful, less friction when turning it over and you have to be on your toes to block a kick. Of course you know that this is the exact opposite of what boxers do to gain power with their punches by punching flatfooted.

But his point is mute because in MMA you have to sprawl like a wrestler, and its better to be flatfooted with your weight on your front foot in wrestling. MMA is very complex.

 

but still that extra padding is dead weight, it slows down the momentum. 4 or 6 ounces might not seem like much but I notice it when Im shadowboxing with and without boxing gloves.

But whatever, we can agree to disagree.

 

**** that Fight SCIENCE SHOW . . . why didn't they put a heavy weight boxer on test too so we can have a conclussion on who hits harder?

It's as simple as that.

 

Hitting a punchbag is one thing.

Trying to land a power shot on someone that trains everyday to avoid em is an entirely different matter.

 

the extra padding is like a roll of quarters and will add to the impact .. and you also have remember boxer spar and work out with 20 and 18 oz gloves so when the fight for real 12, 10 and 8 oz gloves are light and feel like nothing at all. so you can imagine a monster like Klitsco who weight 250 solid no fat and 6'7 feet tall pushing off the balls of his feet falling into his punch you with 12 oz Gloves on , I doubt if its really going to matter what he hits you with , just long as he doesn't kill you from sheer impact, because that what this boils down to "impact" brute trauma force , the 12 oz gloves allows him to hit you as hard as he humanly can with out breaking his hand on your skull.

but yes we agree to disagree ..

 

Did I post on this thread or am I mistaken?

 

Boxers have better footwork but they are more stationary. Look at Corrales-Castillo for example, you could not stand there if it was MMA otherwise you would loose your kneecaps or get taken down. Even guys like PBF who dance around the ring now and again sits on the spot to shoulder roll the punches off, works in boxing but wont work in mma where hes legs would get taken out and his opponent would bodyslam him. Toney does it too, pea & Tyson would often weave off punches but again, that wouldnt work in MMA. Its a different sport all together. Ive no doubt boxers are better trained at footwork but mma guys generally have to keep a much more concentrated look at the distance of their legs from their opponents than boxers.

 

They got the heavweight numbers based on an earlier episode as I mentioned previously in this thread. The guy however was an old BUM who had no business representing heavyweight boxers.

 

And that dude from the 1st show wasn't even a heavyweight. He had 3 fights in the jr. middelweight division back in the the mid to late 80s.

 

His name is Stve Petramale btw..

http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=262946&cat=boxer

 

Those tatted up skate boarders on steroids go into MMA because that is where their kind relate to them and they can have some success and notoriety. None of those people would succeed at boxing. One big striker from MMA, maybe Mighty Mo or someone else, was owned in a 6 round bout against a chunky journeyman with a losing record. You cannot even compare the hand skills of a boxer and MMA. To MMA's credit, there are some very good grappler's and submission artists that would be a nightmare for anyone to deal with. But if an MMA guy tried to stand-up with even a mediocre boxer, he would be looking at the lights.:rofl :rofl

 

Actually, I remember before the Tyson - Bruno II fight, they measured both fighters punching strength somehow... and Bruno hit surprisingly harder than Iron Mike