And just to clarify for any other simple minded peeps out there who misinterpret my comment about old fighters who "stalk for only a couple of rounds". I was implying that they stalk for a couple of rounds before any actions takes place, in a slow paced fight. NOT that they only fought for a couple of rounds before the fight was over. I dont know why anyone would have trouble understanding this, but oh well.
Who's talking about the weight of the fist? This weight is a factor but, only a small factor. All along I have been talking about putting your weight behind the punch, i.e. your body weight. I didn't mention the weight of the fist because if dulls in comparison. Do you not think the body weight of the sumo wrestler isn't more than that of Jackson's??? If the sumo applied his body weight behind a punch along with the right technique (to further increase Acceleration) do you not think he could punch harder than Jackson? That clip did not show that and, hence I said it was not entirely accurate because it was not comparing like for like. Furthermore, the clip incorrectly stated the mass of the fist but, if you look at Jackson's punch he threw his whole body into it. That's why he was able to generate 1800 lbs of force. Btw, a heavyweight's fist and arm probably weighs 2-3 times that of a lightweights. That's just a guess and could vary greatly. When you punch from a stationary position i.e. not applying body weight the weight of your arm has also got to be taken into account and not just your fist. If you transferred weight from one leg to another then your body weight has to be taken into account. Think this will be the last time I'm going to explain this.
The mass of whats moving is the only mass that matters. Heavyweights punch harder because they transfer more force through stonger bodies, which keep their body stiff at the moment of impact, hence a bigger impact. Until you get these basic concepts you won't understand punching.
So, a heavyweight doesn't move his body forward when he punches? Jackson didn't move his body in the clip? The sumo wrestler didn't move his body forward when he charged at his opponent? I think you're the one who doesn't understand simple dynamics of motion. A stiff body means nothing when there is no Mass behind it and I say this again if you still don't get it for the 5th time. We are not just talking about the mass of the fist we are talking about the entire mass of the person who is throwing the punch. Weight transfer (from the back foot to the front foot) is a key element in throwing a harder punch.
wow beebs you pretty dumb, you making yourself look bad, honesty learn your fuken laws of physics before saying **** bro.. Frist of all the punch Force DOES NOT DEPEND ON THE SIZE OF THE FUKEN FIST you dumbass that plays a very small role in a punch becuz u telling me the body is motionless haha, when throwing a punch a boxer applys body weight into one target dumbass NOT JUST THE FIST, IT BEGANS AT THE BACK FOOT, and into the FIST, called kinetic linkage, just like when u PUSH, U USE UR LEGS, to push harder, thats why in boxing and even football they have STANCES, and also WHY they teach a boxer when throwing a fuken punch to be on ur toes and twist your hips, and your body... NOW MASS X ACCERATION = FORCE, is the fuken right equation dumbass, your fist isn't indepent FROM YOUR BODY, you apply MORE weight when you put your body into which = FORCE, and the QUICKER you throw the punch = ACCERATION and if apply all your body weight the more FORCE you get. M X A = F Another thing that proves your are a moron is why the fuk you putting the equation of momentum and impulse.... thats newtons 3rd LAW, EVERY REACTION HAS EQUAL OPPOSITE REACTION.. THATS ONLY IMPORTANT DURING THE COLLISION WHEN THE GLOVES HITS THE OPPENTS FACE............................................................................... Learn your fuken physics anyways back to boxing, the truth is, what if you can impact 1000lb of force, but it doesnt mean every punch you land will be 1000lbs of force, why perfect balance, stance, acceration, speed, weight, aim, is so damn important to throw a perfect punch, now for MMA and Boxing, MMA is very freestyle very off balance sport, while boxing has a solid powerful stance and balance to throw a perfect punch, it's VERY POSSIBLE for a MMA to throw a punch as hard as a heavyweight Pro Boxer, Law of Physics says so, but does he have the balance, and stance and speed to impact the most damage? While the sport of boxing does, why Boxers can hit harder than MMA fighters
Yea, you seem real credible. Learn what "impulse" is and how it applies here then start talking. Actually don't bother, just go kill yourself. And for the record, putting your body weight into a punch is just a way of explaining that you need to use your whole body to punch and not just your arms, it doesn't actually mean your weight is transfered through the fist, the weight of your body is still transfered to the ground. I'm not going to argue with people who refuse to learn when the facts are simply and clearly presented to them.
beebs, it is very clear that you just don't understand physics. You keep confusing the force created by gravity, which acts downwards and the one that is created when you run, walk, whatever which is the sideways force. In both instances your Mass is involved. When someone throws a brick at you (object moving sideways) why do you think there is force behind it? The brick doesn't have arms or legs strength to give it force. It's because the brick has Mass and it was Accelerated at you by a throw. A boxer throws a stronger punch by utilising his Mass (by accelerating it) and accelerating his fist/arm at the target as well. Once you extend and stiffen your arm out upon impact you have utilised your Mass, which was in motion to create additional force. Please get help from your coach or someone. Jackson's punch was measure at 1800lbs or roughly 800kgs. Do you think he could just have relied on his strength to create 800kgs of force with one hand? Professional weightlifters couldn't even do it. I bet Jackson would be struggling to lift 100kgs with one arm. His Mass was involved dude. Get educated.
I saw that episode, they were all over bas' dick and made him out to be superman, he punched harder than a heavyweight boxer, he kicked harder than a champion muay thai kickboxer, and he lasted longer than any porn star. when he did the punching test he wound up like a top and swung for the fences, so while it was a impressive result he'd never land a punch like that in a fight.
