Purpose Of The "Irish" Nickname In Boxing

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  1. Beatle

    Beatle Sheer Analysis Full Member

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    The nickname "Irish" has always had one purpose and one purpose only: to make it clear that an American fighter had Irish blood.

    "Irish" Pat Lawlor
    "Irish" Billy Collins
    "Irish" Micky Ward

    These were all great American fighters who wanted to let their fans know that they were of Irish ancestry. It was a way to say that they were tough guys. Everyone in the boxing world knew that Irish-American fighters were hard as nails.

    Similarly, Andy Lee, who was born in England, called himself "Irish" Andy Lee. He wanted to let people know that his ancestry was Irish.

    It would make no sense for a fighter who was actually born in Ireland to call himself "Irish", because the ring announcer tells the audience where the boxers are from at the beginning of every fight.
     
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  2. sniffmybadger

    sniffmybadger Relationships are not my forte Full Member

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    Same with Tyson Fury and Mathew Macklin, maybe they feel the are Irish which is fair enough, some sceptics may say they are trying to drum up support from Irish Americans, as they love all things Irish
     
  3. Unforgiven

    Unforgiven VIP Member banned Full Member

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    It's marketing.
    Because Irish and Irish-Americans are willing to pay to support fighters from their ethnic group.
    A loyal demographic for promoters and fighters to exploit.
     
  4. ruffryders

    ruffryders Active Member Full Member

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    Fortunately Irish people are now accepted by the mainstream white people as humans.

    If a black fighter did that, they would be crucified by the media
     
  5. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    I'll never understand a man born here and want to be recognised from somewhere else, where im from is full of plastics with no financial gain whatsoever
     
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  6. Jake LaMotta

    Jake LaMotta Lights Out Full Member

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    To be fair, Macklin's parents are Irish and Macklin spent a good amount of his youth in Ireland.
     
  7. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Shut up you painful cry baby
     
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  8. Birmingham

    Birmingham Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Same as me, same as most kids born with irish heritage, never felt the need to pretend it was anything more than a holiday though, it never changed my accent lol
     
  9. uglyandproud7

    uglyandproud7 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Re black fighter using 'Irish' getting negative feedback, actually probably not at all. Can't thing of exact fights offhand, but I've seen fighters come out in local colors (city/country) even though not from and get a pop (positive reaction). Re 'Irish', as others said, just marketing. And in the US it works, I grew up in a neighborhood where the U2 Loving Irish flag tattooed on ankle crowd, who've never been and grandparents from, eat that nonsense up. - And with those actually from, here in NYC, the Poles, the English, etc. show up and support big time when one of theirs is going.
     
  10. marty

    marty Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It's basically because the world is made up of two types of people. One is Irish people and the other is people who want to be Irish.
     
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  11. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    It’s like they said in The Great White Hype

    “I’m not even Irish”
    “This is boxing, it just means you’re white”

    It’s marketing. Part of it goes back to the 1920s-1950s when many top boxers the US where from Irish, Italian, and Jewish backgrounds and neighborhoods. There would
    be fights marketed around neighborhoods/ethnic enclaves.
     
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  12. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I thought it was because they were Irish. That was silly of me
     
  13. latineg

    latineg user of dude wipes Full Member

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    That’s not true.

    Creating BS does not help it creates more chaos between the races, not less fella.
     
  14. pistal47

    pistal47 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My parents and grandparents always said we were Irish. My grandparents immigrated from Belfast, so I always figured I was. I took a DNA test: 11% Sub-Saharan ****ing African, English, Scottish, Irish, Swedish, Norwegian, Danish, and embarrassingly French. What a shot to the nuts.

    Celtics just swept the Pacers BTW.