Purse bid for Fury Whyte has been called for Jan 11. Split confirmed: 80:20

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  1. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Surely if that was the case they would have scrapped the show rather than run it without the main event as well as offering refunds.
     
  2. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    All we know is the first fight did 425k BT PPVs.

    Wiki has the rematch unknown and lists the 3rd fight as 300k UK ppv buys.

    The argument isn't whether Fury is a bigger star than Whyte. The argument is the fight ppv numbers would be higher with Whyte as an opponent than anybody else Fury would fight in the UK instead.

    We are not in a situation where we can say a Fury fight will draw 500k ppv buys minimum regardless who he fights. There is nothing to suggest that be the case at all. That's AJ level of popularity.
     
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  3. Puroresu_Fan

    Puroresu_Fan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He clearly does bring his own audience as his ppv buyrates and ticket sales say otherwise.

    It's disingenuous to say the people that bought Whyte PPVs or tickets for his fights were not fans. If it was that easy to sell tickets and PPVs plenty of other fighters would be doing the same numbers but they are not.
     
  4. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    To be completely fair, it was Fury team that was trying to get out of the fight, and was offering 20-80 split from the very beginning, why didn't WBC decide to punish them?

    ***** what Arrum have said. Hearn have stated openly what Fury team was offering and this was a known fact. Hearn have said what Team Fury has offer and that they want to meet in the middle. Which is a well known tactic.
    He said that they recognize Fury as the bigger draw and being the Champion.
    Their idea was probably to get something in the middle.

    I mean at the end of the day you have rules, but WBC just remove/twist them to their liking.
    Also taking just the last bout as a measurement tool, while there was COVID restriction all over the place and most boxer didn't even fight, and Fury was inactive for 18 months is a dog***** pathetic, you will agree?

    Saying all that i don't really care about the split, the main point is this ain't fair. I want the fight to happen, as there is no better fight for Fury currently.
     
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  5. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    Again exactly what i was saying:

    The WBC addressed the latter part during its annual convention this past November in Mexico City, where the organization’s headquarters are also based. Carl Moretti, vice president of operations for Top Rank vocally petitioned for an 80/20 split to be assigned to the fight, in line with the drastic paydays earned by the two boxers over their past several fights. The request was in stark contrast to the traditional 55/45 split enjoyed between a reigning WBC full titlist and interim beltholder. WBC by-laws provide room to go as much as 70/30 in favor of the full champion at its discretion, with a formal request by any involved party to be reviewed by the sanctioning body’s Board of Governors.

    The matter was tabled at the time, as WBC president Mauricio Sulaiman refused to further discuss any fight involving Whyte given the pending litigation.

    “We cannot discuss any further details whatsoever due to the proceedings,” noted Sulaiman. “The arbitration is still going on. Unfortunately, we’re in the process. We simply made the ruling [today], and that’s where we are right now. That’s why we can’t make any further comments whatsoever.

    “This has been a very frustrating process. But I am happy and hopeful that it will get done.”

    It's clear that WBC are trying to screw Whyte over again.

    The guy won the Interim in 2019, and you see in their document they decide to change the rule exactly back in 2019. :D

    There is a report that there is a big chance Whyte taking this to court as well, and WBC will past him buy and line Wilder as mandatory, and Fury had to face WIlder for the 4th time .....

    Comment on this part Fury - Wilder 4. Is anyone actually wanna see this s**** again ?
     
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  6. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    80-20 it is. Whyte will still make a few million to get his butt beat. He should be grateful he's getting the fight at all, having been KTFO by a shot 40 ty old Povetkin two fights ago.
     
  7. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well, if Dillian Whyte wants $10 million, then his promoter, Eddie Hearn, needs to bid $50 million for the fight ($40 million Fury/$10 million Whyte = 80-20 split).

    With all of Eddie's connections, what's $50 million?

    Call a Saudi prince or jack up the PPV price to $85 in the UK, hold it in Wembley and sell a million ppvs.

    None of these guys should be "crying poor." We've been hearing for years what a big PPV draw Whyte is. We've been hearing for years how Whyte has been ducked.

    Time for Whyte's promoter to treat him like an A-Lister, win the purse bid and operate under the belief Whyte will KO Fury.

    Eddie could have all the heavyweight titles by the Spring if his guys Whyte and Joshua just win.

    Time to put up (or shut up).

    Win the purse bid, sell a ton of PPVs in the UK, and get on with it.
     
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  8. WBC WBA IBF

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    They weren't accused of corruption though. They were sued for violating Rocchigianni's rights, but they weren't accused of anything criminal. The other three orgs were all confirmed to be selling ratings for cash. Nobody accused the WBC of being paid off by Roy Jones to reinstate him as champion.
     
  9. WBC WBA IBF

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    Those are the splits you can modify to when modifying in favor of the challenger. But when modifying in favor of the champion, any split is allowed under rule 2.6.
     
  10. WBC WBA IBF

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    The WBC analyzed the recent fights for both fighters. That is how the process works. Nothing was cherry picked.
     
  11. Unforgiven

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    I couldn't care less about the split or the WBC rules or their silly interim and rankings nonsense. **** 'em.

    We just want to see the best HWs (Fury, Usyk) staying active in decent or acceptable fights, and on course to fight each other in 2022.

    To boxing fans Whyte is just a second-rate heavyweight that can serve as an acceptable filling time opponent for Fury. That's it.
    Fury probably genuinely wants to fight in March or April. That's good for the fans. Whyte has the opportunity to be there in the other corner, being paid millions if he wants it.
     
  12. 11player

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    WBC working against the fight, absurd, how can one respect that?!

    Even team Fury already aknowledged Whyte is worth 25%. The ruling could at least observe this fact, came from Arum himself.
     
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  13. WBC WBA IBF

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    This is a lie. The WBC rules very clearly state interim titleholders are to be treated as regular ol' mandatories when it comes to the purse bid split.

    The 45% rule was removed over a decade ago. You're spreading misinformation.
     
  14. WBC WBA IBF

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    To avoid a purse bid, you have to offer a little more or else why wouldn't the challenger just go to bid? Standard operating procedure to offer 5-10% more than the challenger is entitled to at purse bid to entice them to avoid a purse bid.
     
  15. channy

    channy 4.7.33 banned Full Member

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    All this talk of splits and whatever is pathetic, Whyte is Guaranteed a couple of Million regardless, just ****ing get on with it FFS, if he doesn't fancy it then **** off.

    Anybody remember when Michael Gomez fought Dean Pithie?

    In his interview after the fight he revealed he didn't even know how much he was being paid, but he took the fight anyway because he wanted it...
    Dillian should stop ****ing about and get in there, if not **** off and take his scared arse excuses with him...