Put a prime Jones Jr in the ring with the Johnson who knocked him out, what happens?

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Prime Jones vs the Johnson who knocked him out

  1. Jones wins

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    97.1%

  2. Johnson wins

    1 vote(s)
    2.9%
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  1. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Come on now.
     
    Loudon, Jul 23, 2020
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  2. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Are you RJJ’s brother or public relations officer lol?
     
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  3. PhillyPhan69

    PhillyPhan69 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Yepper!
     
    PhillyPhan69, Jul 23, 2020
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  4. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Are you drug induced?
     
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  5. MURK20

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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    What are you going on about?

    I literally said there's an argument he's no longer in his prime.
     
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  7. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    No, I pick Jones to win.

    Why would I dislike him?
     
    lufcrazy, Jul 23, 2020
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  8. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Almost unanimously in favour of Jones so far.
     
    lufcrazy, Jul 24, 2020
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  9. Loudon

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    There isn't even an argument is there.

    The version of Roy who Glen fought was damaged goods.

    He didn't even resemble the versions who'd fought Toney, Hill and Griffin etc.
     
    Loudon, Jul 24, 2020
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  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    You're arguing that Jones wasn't in his prime right now.

    You're literally preaching to the choir.

    The difference between me and you is I don't try forcing my opinions onto others, I presented the thread with arguments for both guys.

    But here's the kicker.

    You and I feel Jones was past his best.

    You and I feel prime Jones wins a clear points decision over Johnson.

    You're literally reinforcing what I said in my opening post.
     
    lufcrazy, Jul 24, 2020
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  11. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He was 2 fights past his prime, he fought for years after that fight
     
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Jones comfortable decision.
     
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  13. Clinton

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    Prime Jones was in a different class to Glencoffe, who despite being a good champion, had problems with inferior fighters to Jones. Prime Roy wins a convincing decision over prime Glencoffe.
     
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  14. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Agreed
     
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  15. Momus

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    In addition to Woods, Jones handled Sosa, Harmon and Gonzalez with little trouble, all of whom held wins over Johnson.

    Based on resume, common opponents and the eye test, there were levels between prime Jones and prime Johnson.

    It can be argued that Johnson was an awkward style for Jones. I'm struggling to see too many other fights that support that though; some of Jones' best performances were against pressure fighters, and he was adept at covering and then scoring with flurries off the ropes. Johnson's cement chin is a complication for any fighter, but Jones dented plenty of those and when he couldn't he was able to keep it long when he needed to.

    Either way, I don't see how a possible stylistic issue would be enough to bridge the obvious difference in class between the two fighters.
     
    Momus, Jul 24, 2020
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