Put Canelo's Mukamba Fight in Perspective.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by StussyBrownnn, Nov 16, 2021.

  1. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

    Aug 17, 2021
    We aint seeing josh taylor go up to fight ugas... Errol or bud taking on Murata or Catano... Inoue take on Fulton... To all the haters saying its so chicken **** to move up from 168 to 190... If it was that easy, why dont we see guys do it more often? Im not flat out defending Canelo, but answer the question. Y'all make it seem like its so easy. If Mukamba was so easy... why hasnt bivol or beterbiev taken on em man?

    With all the catchweight BS as well, we act as if other greats have never done this. Canelo was on the B side vs Floyd, where he was drained to ****. But yall say its one of Floyd's best wins?!?! The double standard is stupid.

    A champ with all the belts wants to have more belts... So to fight another major belt holder at a higher weight class all of a sudden is ducking, when the dudes he be ducking aint champs. But who tf has charlo and benavidez even fought. Why hasnt charlo fought andrade? Why didnt charlo move up to 168? smfh. Again the double standard is crazy stupid.
  2. Sheikh

    Sheikh Well-Known Member Full Member

    Jun 4, 2007
    Mukamba is fighting at a drained 190 that he has not made in years. He will take the money of course but I would give Canelo more credit just for fighting a fair fight against Bivol, Beterbiev, etc.
  3. StussyBrownnn

    StussyBrownnn Member Full Member

    Aug 17, 2021
    You make it sound so easy. SO why hasnt bivol and beterbiev taken his belt then?
  4. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Dec 2, 2012
    I would have preferred his next opponent be Benavidez but Canelo is on a quest to be a boxing immortal. A 5th div belt puts him in the company of Hearns, Leonard and FLoyd in record books.
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  5. mirkofilipovic

    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

    Jan 7, 2014
    Because they are trying to create a legacy in their respective weightclasses?
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  6. ElCyclon

    ElCyclon Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Dec 2, 2012
    How, by avoiding each other? They've been doing the same thing Crawford and Spence are doing.
  7. bandeedo

    bandeedo Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Feb 19, 2007
    its just boys and silly men. this isnt some complicated formula, its common sense. i dont remember this much pearl clutching when usyk was testing the waters a weight above, with tune ups, not even belt holders. because they know what weight means in boxing. but apparently canelo shouldnt be subject to the laws of physics.
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  8. The G-Man

    The G-Man Active Member Full Member

    Jul 24, 2020
    Is the 190 lb catchweight confirmed?
  9. shadow111

    shadow111 Boxing Junkie Full Member

    Aug 1, 2012
    No catchweight, the 190 lbs is the new Cruiserweight limit.
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  10. drenlou

    drenlou Most people DKSAB! I got your Gordo @JOKER Full Member

    Jan 22, 2015
  11. Trafford

    Trafford Well-Known Member Full Member

    Sep 29, 2018
    IMO I prefer cruiser at 190. The gap between 175 and 200 was too big.
    I still don’t like Bridgerweight. But if they have to do it. I would make it somewhere like 201 pounds.That way true heavyweights stay at heavyweight

    I don’t think we needed Bridger buy another division between light heavy and cruiser
  12. IsaL

    IsaL Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

    Oct 7, 2006
    Why didn't Bivol, Kovalev, and Beterbiev fight each other when they all held a version of the 175 belt, or Beterbiev and Bivol fight now?

    Why didn't Andrade, Saunders, or Smith fight each other?

    Why didn't Golovkin, Andrade, or Charlo fight each other?

    It seems Canelo haters hold him to much much higher expectations.
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  13. kirk

    kirk l l l Staff Member

    Jul 26, 2004
    Dont really care, to be honest.

    Id rather see him fight dangerous and relevant guys around his own division than go after weak links in higher weights.
  14. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

    Jan 21, 2019
    Might as well fight Trevor Bryan while he's at it....

    if the makubu fights a catchweight then it's meaningless...fighters don't do well drained...see Dawson Vs ward
  15. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft 'Snarky Little Gobshite' - IntentionalButt Full Member

    Mar 3, 2019
    Do you mean Makabu?

    Lets put this into perspective.

    Makabu is 34 years old; hasn't fought since last year - which will mean more than a full year's inactivity by the time Canelo fights him - and arguably lost to both Cieslak and Papin and he was KTFOd by Tony Bellew. He is the smallest cruiserweight champion; clearly the worst and if anyone is honest with themselves, they know how likely it is Canelo slaps on a rehydration clause or forces the fight at a catch-weight or... so on and so forth.

    If he goes up and takes on Makabu, it's a cherry pick. No question. Not that that'd make it a bad win, he is still moving up two weight classes, but it's disappointing to see him take on the worst of the champions and say to himself he's 'chasing greatness'. If he truly was, he'd fight Briedis.

    If he longs this process out and does wait until Cinco De Mayo, then does what he did at light-heavy - win belt, vacate, unify division below - then we could possibly see him in with Beterbiev or Bivol. It'd give Beterbiev more time to sit on the shelf aging, too. It wouldn't surprise me in the least if this fight was extremely well planned and is apart of a massive, albeit risky, run to maximise starpower and money.