Put Canelo's Mukamba Fight in Perspective.

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    George is probably just assuming that Makabu must be the worst CW Champ because he's the smallest of the CW Champs and because he's fighting Canelo to perpetuate the idea that Canelo must be cherry picking the worst possible champ of the division. Glad you put that notion out to pasture. Fans have a habit of not thinking clearly and just jumping to ignorant conclusions when Canelo is involved. We see this kind of thing all the time.
    Not only that but he just became Undisputed at SMW. Fighting at CW came completely out of left field, especially when Makabu apparently had a fight lined up vs Mchunu. It's unclear if the Mchunu match will still happen or what weight that would have happened at, the new 190 lb limit or the 200 lb limit. I wonder if there was a dispute over what the weight limit would be at for that one that caused it to not be finalized.

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  2. Serge

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    It's a Roy vs Ruiz type cherrypick. He picked the smallest CW champion out there whose SMW-LHW dimensions (74'' reach) make him the easiest for him to beat out of all the CW champions out there when everyone knows that Briedis who called him out the other day is the top dog.

    Goulamirian's a big very physically strong, durable, muscular heavy-handed CW who would ice Makabu and Okolie is a 6'5'' with and 82'' reach physical freak at the weight and even though he's less proven than Makabu his sheer size and length would make a fight against Makabu a physical mismatch. Okolie is the very definition of size mattering because his size and length are literally everything for him.

    Makabu's a good fighter who possesses skill and power but since getting iced out cold by Bellew has gone life and death against 11 fight novice Papin who basically lost that due to inexperience and Cieslak both of which were close/razor-close affairs and he stopped glass cannon Kudryashov whose stamina or rather lack thereof makes that shell of Kovalev who fought Clen which was also a shameless cherrypick look like a prime Calzaghe and a battle-scarred well past it Durodola and he was hurt and struggled at times in both those fights too IIRC and juice master Clen and juice provider Reynoso are obviously keenly aware of that and consider him another inactive champion on the slide and ripe for the picking.

    The Abel Sanchez trained Goulamirian is like a CW sized version of GGG albeit not as hard a puncher P4P. If a well past it considerably lighter senior citizen GGG can beat a prime juiced Clen x 2 then Clen ain't wanting no smoke with the Ghoul.

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  3. KiwiMan

    KiwiMan Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Looks like someone else is high on the Ghoul!
     
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  4. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How do you know that Makabu vs Mchunu was going to be at 200 lbs? Source?
    Wait a minute, that's not accurate. The WBC clearly announced that they were changing its CW limit to 190 lbs last October. That's over a year ago. Canelo or his team had nothing to do with that change or that announcement. Makabu was made aware that the limit was changing to 190 lbs last November, but his defense last December was still at 200 lbs. This wasn't something that Team Canelo came up with to gain an advantage, this was something that was in the works by the WBC for a while now.
    I don't know what to make of it, I personally think it's a pretty big risk for Canelo. People who are acting like this is some kind of cherry pick obviously don't have a clue.
     
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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah I am too. But I hate the fact he's been so damned inactive though what with him not having fought in two years and fighting average to low level comp. And he's 34 y/o now. What a waste of two prime years :facepalm:
     
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  6. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Why is that people don't actually understand what a cherry-pick is?

    Canelo wants a fifth weight title, and him and his camp have picked Makabu as the best from risk/rweard perspective - maybe also because he is WBC and Canelo is tight with Sulaiman (Franchise Champion remember that), so they can make it happen.

    It's not inherently bad, though most definitely leftfield, but it's obviously targetted to get him a 5th division title, with the minimum risk. Just like the Kovalev smash-n-grab; it's unlikely he will stay at Cruiser to defend it, it's a belt grab attempt, hard to even suggest that Canelo is "moving up" to cruiser when - based on his wee jaunt to 175 - he isn't going to stay there.

    I hope it backfires :)
     
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  7. AwardedSteak863

    AwardedSteak863 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Spot on post!
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks
     
  9. BCS8

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    :rolleyes: 190 is the Loserweight limit. Cruiser is 200lb and always has been.

    I like how Canelo was "toO sMalL fOr 160" :lol:
     
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  10. shadow111

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    Cruiser has always been 200 lbs? Really? Are you sure about that? Might wanna double check that one smarty pants.
     
  11. Salty Dog

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    They all suck and they all get stick for it. It's the era. While harldly devoid of talent, this is an era that is more about appearance than substance. About looking great on paper and then making claims rather than actually being great and doing great deeds.

    There are a few notable exceptions individually, but no weight class, no promotional organization, no governing body is exempt from this bull****.
     
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  12. BCS8

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    True cruisers are 200lb. Microbe quasi-cruisers are smaller
     
  13. AwardedSteak863

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    CW was traditionally 190 all the way up to about the last 10-15 years depending on which governing body. Qawi vs Holyfield, Toney-Jirov , Momeck vs Bell etc were all contested at 190.
     
  14. Young Terror

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    Another cherrypick... at this rate with the cherrypicks, the catvhweights,crooked judges,peds etc ...by the time he retires he will have five or six legit fights the others will all have a asterisk attached to them.
     
  15. shadow111

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    @BCS8 Get educated on the history of the Cruiserweight Division :