put in order of greatness

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  1. Brickhaus

    Brickhaus Packs the house Full Member

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    In Jones' prime, he was top 3 P4P for a full decade. People have a short memory. I don't care if Hopkins is still doing well now, there only maybe 10 other fighters in history that have done what Jones did there.

    The order the first poster proposed seems blatantly obvious to me, to the point where I don't even understand why there's a debate. Jones is clearly on one tier, Hopkins is clearly one tier down from that, and Toney is clearly one tier down from that. They're all hall of famers, but there's a clear heirarchy.
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Jones is clearly #1

    just 1 middleweight title and that heavyweight title makes him more great than Hopkins and toney combined
     
  3. Mob

    Mob Active Member Full Member

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    As far as greatest talent at the peak of their respective skill level....I would be inclined to rate them:

    Jones
    Toney
    Hopkins

    As for reality and the way their respective careers have turned out:

    Hopkins
    Toney
    Jones
     
  4. Jinx

    Jinx Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what he said...:deal
     
  5. Zakman

    Zakman ESB's Chinchecker Full Member

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    1. Hopkins
    2. Jones
    3. Toney
     
  6. Jason997

    Jason997 Active Member Full Member

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    Jones is a supreme all time great.

    The trouble with the other two is this. Hopkins is a gamer who has incredible discipline. Him and Toney are opposites in terms of work ethic, but one can argue that James Toney is the better natural fighter. Plus, Toney was a competitive heavyweight. Something I don't think Hopkins could have been if he would have been a fat slob.

    - Jason
     
  7. brooklyn1550

    brooklyn1550 Roberto Duran Full Member

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    1. Jones
    2. Hopkins
    3. Toney
     
  8. The Sarge

    The Sarge Member Full Member

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    1. Hopkins
    2. Jones
    3. Toney
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    agreed
     
  10. Zhaakal

    Zhaakal Well-Known Member Full Member

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    same
     
  11. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Horse****! Hopkins is going to turn Calslappy into his *****.

    :smoke
     
  12. 1 Hitta Quitta

    1 Hitta Quitta Active Member Full Member

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    exactly how i feel
     
  13. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Taylor beat him
     
  14. Andre

    Andre BAD INTENTIONS!!!!!!!!!!! Full Member

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    :good
     
  15. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Excellent post. I should add that Jones's late career losses are the reason why this is even a debate. There is an old adage in boxing that you are only as good as your last fight. Its a shame really because had Jones retired after beating Ruiz or hell even after beating Tarver, he would have gone down as the greatest fighter since Sugar Ray Leonard.


    My order is clear:

    1. Jones

    2. Hopkins

    3. Toney