Putting money on Wlad stoppage after presser

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by atberry, Jun 27, 2011.


  1. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The bookies set the odds in their favour but only by around 10%.

    Bookies lose big if the favorites come in. The bookies are having a hard time now and a few bad weeks is enough to put some of the smaller to mid size outfits out of business.

    I saw a bookie who had one shop at the bottom of my street getting wiped out one Saturday because he didn't lay off his bets enough to protect himself.

    With the bigger bookies it is obviously really well managed with lots of analyists on computers and odds makers.

    If Haye wins the bookies will takes a big hit. I am sure there has been a lot of money put on Haye because in my mind there is no way he should be as low as 6/4.

    The bookies want Wlad to win and they are happy to be in that situation as Wlad should win.
     
  2. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    The England football team is another example. You'll always get unrealistically good odds on their opponents because of the money placed on England
     
  3. KingCobra

    KingCobra IBF World Champion Full Member

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    I'm tired of hearing about a punchers chance. Haye has far more than that going for him. He has shocking hand speed, excellent footwork which will enable him to get in and out of range quickly, very good use of distance, punches from angles and on the night I'm sure he will have a great strategy - a plan A, B and C. I think it's fair to say that Hayemaker will have predicted, planned and practised for everything that Wlad will bring to the table. I don't think Wlads team can say the same.
     
  4. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Partly true but they have a huge fanbase who bet on them no matter who they play. The odds on United are always distorted.
     
  5. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    They won't be happy to be in that situation on Saturday ;)
     
  6. aka TORA

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    for the same reasons we believe england can win the world cup every 4 years, not the land of hope and glory for nothing:smoke
     
  7. GazOC

    GazOC Guest Star for Team Taff Full Member

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    The papers drum it up and the players make the right noises but if you listen to most football fans they don't get their hopes up.
     
  8. Strongback

    Strongback Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I knew you weren't having a go.:good

    I just thought I'd nip anything in the bud before someone went English Medieval on my ass.
     
  9. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    The 6/4 odds on Haye say more to me about the bookies not having much of a clue. They're worried about this fight, as well they might be. They're not going to put all their eggs in one basket. Even when this was first made Haye was 2/1 which is miles shorter than any Wlad opponent. It's natural they've come in also, since Haye's had experience at heavyweight since then.
     
  10. Manning

    Manning Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yep, he's basically Ali with more power.
     
  11. ImElvis666

    ImElvis666 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I find it crazy that a press conference is enough to swing your opinion on who will win.
     
  12. Strongback

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    If Haye breaks down Wlad I will be very surprised.

    Don't great me wrong, Haye is an excellent fighter it's just Wlad has the bigger better attributes and should be too much for Haye to handle.

    Wlad has made smaller opponents look like children in recent fights and that can't ignored.


    I'm not saying Haye can't keep his distance like he did against Valuev and sneak in with some serious power shots like the one that nearly knocked Valuev over but that isn't enough for me to give Haye a great chance of winning.

    I just don't see Haye turning into Sugar Ray Leonard v Duran 2.
     
  13. bruthead

    bruthead REAL TALK Full Member

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    The bookies are obviously not always correct. But it's pretty rare for their odds to be far out. Just because a favourite loses doesn't mean the favourite shouldn't have been the favourite.

    The odds at the moment give Haye something like a 30-35% chance. If Haye wins it doesn't then it doesn't mean the odds were wrong. You'd have to hold the fight maybe 100 times before you could start drawing that conclusion.
     
  14. GazOC

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    For some reason a lot of people have been really caught up in the head to head and press conference performances for this fight.

    And mostly seeing completely different things from each other.....
     
  15. White Tiger

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    Forgot about anazyzing styles and weaknesses.

    They both got power and speed , etc, etc.

    They can both KO each other.

    Wlad has the obvious physical advatnages and tools and experience and based on these points - he should be made favorite and I pick him to win the fight by stoppage.

    The only way - I dont write off Haye - and give him a chance of a spectualer KO upset win is................

    STYLES MAKE FIGHTS.


    Haye is good at knocking out upright tall Europeans..............and knocking them out quick.