quality over quantity. Is Louis lacking?

I always laugh when you make a thread. Thanks for that.

 

I'm not much for looking at resumes. Matchings, styles make the fights. For me it's about the Louis right hand. This gives him the definitive puncher's chance with anybody. I prefer an Ali, a Marciano, Tyson, even Jersey Joe Walcott to watch. These four guys would be my favorites in a bout with Louis based on their styles. But Joe Louis catches any of these guys right, with that ****in' right hand of his, and they could go. They could all go.

 

I love this.

 

Haha this is great.

 

:-(

 

Styles make fights. Louis for all intents and purposes fought a wide array of opponents, some swarmers, some tacticians, others counter punchers, and he had a very high success rate. You can't say the same for alot of fighters---Ali could be defeated by swarmers (Joe Frazier) and counter punchers (Ken Norton), for example.

Louis defeated the best men of his era, and even after his prime, in the reigns of Charles and Walcott, he was still ranked among the top ten. What more can you really ask of a fighter? Want to knock Louis, go look at Larry Holmes 20 some odd title defenses, and outside of Shavers and Cooney, who stands out? Berbick? Witherspoon? Please, they were novices at the time with 15 or so bouts! I didnt see where Cobb, LeDoux, Evangelista, Frank, Bey, and Leon Spinks (former world champion or not) was setting the world on fire.

 

nah, let him rant. it's like the village idiot thinking he can form a credible argument.

 

Why don't you respond to some of those threads where you got your ass kicked trying this ****, instead of starting from scratch with all new threads??

 

I was going to say everyone is entitled to his opinion when I saw the initial responses you were getting Woody but your last post makes me think your playing it off as a joke and the others who have been here longer than me are aware of a past history here ...

 

Louis would have made a pin cushion out of Tex Cobb.

 

LOL, isn't that the truth.

Cobb had a very solid chin and a decent punch, but I could see him recieving a horrific pounding from Louis, probably leading to a stoppage. While this thread is not to be taken seriously, I can see some of the contenders that Woddy listed as appearing on Louis's record in the 30's and 40's though. Not that they would be among his better opponents, but probably right along side the lower teir of men who Joe defended against. Nevertheless, most of them would be made short work of.

 

Hi, Woody

A fighter fights the guys who are there to be fought; then (roughly quoting Ted Spoon) you consider the caliber of the performance in light of the caliber of opposition.

Looking at Louis, the criticisms would be: 1) he didn't fight Elmer Ray or Jimmy Bivins [Edit: Louis did fight Bivins during his comeback]. This criticism is a bit ameliorated when one considers that Louis had a three-year hole where he couldn't defend, and that the fellows he defended against when he did come back were pretty justifiable selections; 2) non-ultra dominant performances against middling opposition. Here in some cases it might be considered that Joe was fighting monthly and not putting in the sort of preparation he would have if expecting a stronger challenge.

However, I'm not trying to right off your question, by any means. Basically, the thing to do is to look at Louis's fights and ask, 'under the circumstances, did Louis treat these fighters as one would have expected a great fighter to have treated them?'