Quarry 1970 vrs. Norton 1975

It is certainly on the cards.

 

People really diss Norton bad for his falling apart against "Garcia" and "Foreman" in the early 70s............. But Norton always had better skills than Quarry boy ever had.........

Well, if Quarry was gonna beat Norton, 1969 or 1970 would've been the time to do it.....

MR.BILL

 

I'll give the edge to Quarry here.
I always felt Quarry was better than Norton.

 

norton tko again

 

Quarry is one of my favorite fighters, but I think Norton would still destroy him.

 

Jerry had just enough power to give Norton problems, He wins a close fight.

 

As a big Quarry fan, I'd like to see those favoring him make their case.

Having just reviewed Norton-Quarry, and having frequently watched Quarry-Spencer, Quarry-Foster and Quarry-Lyle, I can't figure out how Jerry might have effectively dealt with Ken.

I'm one of those who believes that Quarry would have handed Foreman's head back to Big George. Styles make fights though, and I don't envision Jerry getting under Norton's jab, or evading Ken's uppercut if he tries.

Mac Foster wasn't known for his jab, but he picked Quarry apart with it early. Norton had far better endurance than most of the headliners Jerry beat, and his much maligned chin was still superior to that of Floyd Patterson (the best conditioned opponent Quarry decisioned).

Norton was a very, very smart boxer, while Eddie Machen got the best of Jerry. Quarry was also caught off guard by Eddie Futch's strategy in the Frazier rematch. (The fact of Futch being involved with Norton also has to factor in here.) Unless Jerry replicated his head movement in the Spencer match, he'd be hard pressed to avoid being stopped on cuts.

While the romantic in me would like to express confidence in a different outcome from 1975, configuring a logical case for one is another matter. Again, I'd like to see somebody explain how this might realistically happen.

 

Duodenum's nailed it, as per usual.

 

Excellent explanation.You've changed my mind.

 

I would have to go with Norton again, this time by TKO in a longer fight. The bout would be very competitive until the end. Jerry would have his moments -- much like he showed in the third round of his 1975 Norton bout -- but overall, Norton's physical advantages and tactical arsenal would enable him to pull ahead.

I'll say Norton wins a very hard fought TKO somewhere between the 8th and 10th rounds. Possibly it ends on cuts, possibly it ends because Quarry is being battered. Until the fifth or sixth round, it would be anyone's fight. After that Norton takes over.

Norton's long, hard, commanding left jab would be the punch of the fight.

 

Unless you strike fear in Norton's heart, he is in most any fight.

Quarry wouldn't scare Norton pre-fight, so unless Jerry lands that big left hook early like he did to Shavers and jumps all over Norton, I think Ken probably stops Jerry on cuts about round #9.

 

Ah yes the jab! The one weapon that would defeat alot of very good fighters built along smaller lines. Ali did it to Patterson. Norton to Quarry etc...Which makes me wonder(alot) whether someone like Norton who is abig man with a "Hard, commanding left jab" to quote kenmore (I'm not being a wiseguy, I agree completely) could keep someone like Marciano at bay and steal a decision. Most of these posts seem to feel that Norton would beat a prime Quarry wich is saying something about Nortons' ability as a fighter considering that a prime Quarry was a helluva fighter. Help me out here. Could Norton, who would be Rocky's most skilled/biggest opponent pull it off? A big man with a very good jab and long reach? Possible?

 

Two major differences with Marciano were steady one punch knockout power in both hands, and tremendous endurance. If Rocky pummeled Ken the way Jerry did in round three, Norton would pay dearly for it. Goldman would probably have Marciano pounding Ken's arms (not that Rocky ever needed those instructions). Norton would be dealing with somebody who had badly underrated defensive skills in Marciano.

No, I don't think this particular bigger man would pull it off. Unlike Jerry, Rocky could do it to him with one punch, and he'd either have Ken retreating or on the ropes the whole time.

 

Damn. I was hoping you'd change mine!