Quarry ended up in a sad state

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  1. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    On the one hand, you have Jerry Quarry and on the other hand, you have fighters like Jake LaMotta. LaMotta had double the fights that Quarry had and was known for taking punishment, but he lived into his 90s and only got dementia at the end of his life, but that was likely more of a function of his age than of boxing.
     
  2. SwarmingSlugger

    SwarmingSlugger Active Member Full Member

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    Everyone is different and has a different capacity for blows to the head. Quarry was forced to fight his brothers as a kid by his abusive father so was getting hit before his boxing career. Also he fought at heavyweight unlike LaMotta who was a middleweight.
     
  3. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Science should study this to know who is at greater risk of pugilistic dementia. I know some of it has to be genetic, so perhaps there's some markers in the blood they can look for.
     
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  4. FrankinDallas

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    NFL players as well. And they are wearing specially designed helmets!
     
  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I heard the problem is even worse in football and boxing is actually safer.
     
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  6. FrankinDallas

    FrankinDallas FRANKINAUSTIN

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    The NFL has better record keeping. Boxers? Who cares? Not the promoters. Not the boxing commissions. Not the cable/TV companies.
     
  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    LaMotta’s farther made him fight kids in the street for rent money.
     
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  8. Glass City Cobra

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    There's definitely some sort of genetic factor.

    Bowe was a slugger, but honestly wasn't even in that many wars or took that much punishment aside from the Holyfield trilogy, Golota, etc. He had a relatively short career, but he aged like milk with horribly slurred speech. Bowe didn't even face very many big punchers.

    Then there's Tex Cobb, who had been in there with a murderer's row of Holmes, Dokes, Norton, Shavers, Douglas, etc, and yet kept his quick wit and sharp tongue well into old age. He blocked with his face and had even less skill than Bowe, yet he had a successful acting career too.

    Tommy Hearns had a long career, but he didn't start getting nailed a lot until he got older and his legs slowed down. Hearns was so damn tall and skilled he could avoid a lot of shots, but nowadays you can barely understand him. Floyd Patterson was bounced off the canvas like a yo yo, but didn't have any issues I can think of. Chuck Wepner, again, blocked with his face but didn't have issues (although he did have tons of scar tissue). Meldrick Taylor, ended up a zombie despite all his talent and speed. James Toney, defensive wizard, but took a lot of punishment in sparring wars and now Toney needs a translator. Chris Byrd, defensive wizard who did get tagged or stopped by some heavy hitters, yet he speaks perfectly fine and even has a YouTube channel.

    The results vary and are all over the place regardless of weight classes, boxing style, or length of career.
     
  9. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Floyd Patterson did develop dementia in his early 60s, which could be indicative of damage from boxing, as dementia is relatively rare in people under 65 or 70.
     
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  10. Fergy

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    Poor guy.
    And Quarry was such a warrior.
     
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  11. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    There’s a quote from Rocky Balboa in the first movie that goes something like: “Boxing is a business where you’re practically guaranteed to end up a bum.”

    It’s always been true. They pay a high price.
     
  12. Kid Bacon

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    And then you have my man Chuvalo, who got battered by some of the heaviest hitters ever and make it to the 80s in a quite good mental condition.

    After all the bombing suffered Chuvalo should have been wheelchair bound by the time he was forty, but he was a true freak of nature. He could have made a nice living just being presented as a case study in neurology symposiums and workshops.
     
  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Forgot about Chuvalo. He's bedridden now, but he's 88 years old. So that may have nothing to do with boxing as being ill to the point of being bedridden isn't uncommon in your late 80s.
     
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  14. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He still had dementia but his speech was actually quite good.
     
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  15. Kid Bacon

    Kid Bacon All-Time-Fat Full Member

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    That is sad, but again a lot of 80yrs old suffer from dementia or some other mental issue, boxing or not boxing.

    Once you pass 80s you are already in borrowed time, unfortunately. Making it so far with decent physical and mental conditions as Chuvalo did is a win in my book.
     
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