What I am saying is that Marciano defeated a few oponents who were themselves better than Quarry. I think Quarry would loose to Marciano because he would get drawn into an Irish brawl he could not win.
Those diseases you have, do they hurt very bad? I mean someone who suffers from braindamage must be in real pain. There's no other reason one could argue that Vitali Klitschko wouldn't beat Quarry, but Marciano would work wonders. atsch lzdie
The crucial diference is that Marciano has actualy proven his ability to beat oponents of that calibre in the ring as oposed to in fantasy match ups. I make my picks based on what fighters proved inthe ring not how big their biceps are.
I would'nt count a prime Quarry out in this one especially if he boxes instead of slugs with Rocky. Quarry is faster in both hands and feet and has a first rate chin to boot. His first fight with Frazier proved this. Jerry also took a few wicked shots from Shavers before stopping him and proved in his fight with Lyle that he could utilize movement and good boxing if necessary to win. When you compare the level of competition between the two I think Quarry comes out on top. Quarry fought in what most Boxing experts agree was the best era of HW competition. Rocky feasted on good competition but let's face it, they were'nt in the same ballpark as Ali,Frazier,Patterson,Shavers,Norton,Lyle etc..Most of Rocky's foes would have a hard time competing in Jerry's era whereas most of Jerry's foes would have a picnic if dropped back in the 50's. I don't see bigger faster HW's like Ali and Frazier or Ellis and even Patterson having too much trouble with the likes of Savold, Cockell, Lowrey, a shot Louis or a cagey but elderly Moore. If Quarry could compete with the HW's of the 70's and win most of his battles then it's not inconceivable that he could beat Marciano too. Quarry's speed and chin would spell trouble for Rocky who's best chance lay in KOing Jerry and that would'nt be easy unless Jerry tries to go mano a mano with Rocky instead of boxing him. If Frazier and Shavers could'nt deck him then it's no cinch for Marciano to do it either. This one's a toss up IMO. If Jerry can keep his cool and box and counterpunch effectively then he stands a good chance. If he gets stupid then it's nighty night.
Quarry wouldn't be able to withstand the intense pressure. Even his very atoms would be crushed. This is a sick mismatch!
Jerry Quarry had good handspeed, decent power and a sturdy chin. Quarry did fight a high level of quality fighters and beat a number of them. That being said, I still think that this fight would eventually turn into a slugfest. Can't really point to Quarry's wins over Lyle and Shavers and ignore Quarry's KO loss to Chuvalo. I see Quarry fighting well and leading on points. By the sixth round, Marciano would start to get to him. Rocky would hit him hard and keep up the pressure. I think the Rock would have some rough moments with a warrior like Quarry, but eventually I think that Marciano would win.
It's clear Quarry had some pretty good skills but for some reason, i think quarry did not fight intelligently. he gets suckered into brawling when it's to his advantage to box. his size looks nearly identical to that of Jersey Joe Walcott. Walcott fought a near-perfect fight for 12+ rounds and still got ktfo. Many believe that was one of Walcott's finest performances up to the 13th. I don't think Quarry could do any better. His willingness to trade and dispense with boxing will cost him dearly. Marciano tko 8-10.
Wow! my 2 cents worth. I would pick Rocky to win but I would take a prime Jerry over a Layne or "kid" mathews any day
I wouldn´t bet money on a fight between Layne and Quarry, Jerry was good against punchers, but I don´t know how he would do against Rex, who could pressure you all night in every single round...
Nice post. I agree that Quarry could very well beat the same guys that Marciano fought under the same conditions. I think Quarry vs Charles or Walcott that Marciano fought is 50/50. It is true, at his best Quarry had more speed, and skills ( But not more power ) then Marciano. The thing is Quarry often found a way to lose, while Marciano found a way to win. Sometimes Quarry gave up on himself. Other times he boxed when he should have brawled, and brawled when he should have boxed. Marciano could never be counted out. The Rock had a way of not only overcoming adversity, he did in such a way where he sapped the other man's heart and will to keep confronting him. Cuts, missing punches frequently, being down on points, or being knocked down did not deter Marciano. This is very rare. I think Marciano wins the fight via a TKO in the mid to later rounds. Quarry might be up on points after the first 5 rounds. I would expect Marciano to find his groove in rounds 6-9. Once this happens, I see no comeback for Quarry.
I think Marciano can beat old woman in wheel chair. He would outwork her and counter with his overhand right. Old woman in wheel chair is ultimately doomed because she is up against the unbeaten Marciano.