Jackson finished Norris who was far harder to hit than Quartey and he finished middleweights too, McCallum stated that Jackson had quicker hands than any fighter he ever fought, he`d overpower Ike, just a more deadly fighter more proven at the higher weights.
If anyone was able to stop the tough as nails Quartey it would be the naturally bigger Jackson. Jackson by ko.
Nah, no way. You ain’t beating Jackson by absorbing his blows with your gloves all night. If you’re a smaller man, you ain’t surviving, period. I think he batters Winky, too, but I don’t think I’d bet on a stoppage.
I could see Jackson's power being an issue for a natural WW like Ike but Winky was a very stout JM that walked around in the upper 180's and was much better defensively than Ike. If Tito couldn't put a dent into Winky, I don't think Jackson could either.
Let’s get this part out of the way first: Jackson’s power would’ve been an issue for everybody that was there to be hit. Now we can move forward. Trinidad was shot. I don’t accept the notion that the version Winky faced was in any way reflective of a prime Jackson. Even a prime Tito was at least a full level below Jackson’s power from 154-160. At least. Jackson was a bigger puncher pound for pound by a clear margin, which is saying a lot. Not a major difference, but a clear one. That clear margin gets amplified to major, however, by the fact that he was a bigger man than Tito. It becomes outright laughable when you take into account that the smaller, weaker puncher is a mere shadow of his former self in this comparison. Now, if this mythical fight is taking place at 154, Winky doesn’t really hold those size/strength cards, either. He looked stronger and sturdier at Middleweight than he showed himself to be for 80% of his run at Jr. Middle. He wasn’t always so stout. And he was bothered by far less dangerous men than Jackson there. Not just in his early days, either.
The best ways to beat Jackson IMO are to stay the **** away from him, or get to him first. Walking in front of him, blocking his lightning quick shots, is incredibly unadvisable. Jackson in four. I'd pick him over Winky on six or so, too.
I get your point about that Tito not being a prime one that Winky beat. I do think his power was still there but Winky neutralized him. Winky certainly had two different careers and for most of his time fought as more a cutie/mover and only really transitioned completely into the High Guard live and die by the jab, defensive specialist just before the first Mosley fight. No doubt Jackson could ko pretty much anyone if he caught them clean, I just think the version of Winky that completely neutralized Mosley, Tito , Quartey etc. Would survive Jackson early and take over by the middle rounds. I guess we just disagree on this one but I totally get why anyone would favor Jackson over Winky. The dude had scary power for sure. I just think the high guard style that Winky really committed to late in his career would have neutralized Jackson's power like it did Shane's speed and Tito's power.
I'm not so sure I agree. Being on the outside is far more dangerous against a guy like Jackson. Plenty of fighters were far more successful against bigger punchers in the pocket like James Toney ( look at the punchers he stood in front of) or Roberto Duran late in his career. Now those two stood in the pocket and made people miss by slipping punches, Winky was a mid range guy that liked to block, Pary and throw a hard jab when his opponent was either extended or he would jab on the attach as they were just opening to punch. What I'm saying isn't bible truth here but it is how I see it. McCallum stood in with Jackson and caught him with some big counter shots and while Winky did bot have McCallum's power or versatility he was a sturdy guy that was very good at neutralizing powerful guys.
Doesn’t apply to Winky so much, though. He needed space to get off his straight punches. He wasn’t so much an in-fighter. Though I agree with the sentiment. There’s no one right way to do it. The pocket is just riskier.
