Question about lifting

Discussion in 'Boxing Training' started by mr. magoo, Oct 3, 2011.


  1. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    me too.

    easiest way to explain it, johnnyboy, is that you can't have EXPLOSIVE strength if you don't have a good level of basic and maximal strength. the stimulus just isn't enough. if you best bench press is 80kg, there is no point doing explosive benching with 40kg, you just need to get stronger in general at that stage.
     
  2. Johnboy2007

    Johnboy2007 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    cheers mr small that makes sense!

    not jumping the gun just on what you've said but i think your right and im going to at least spend that "explosive" day doing the second day youve said.

    If you have time also what is the best way to complete 1RM , just as an indicator more than anything. And do you then workout what weight you should be lifting based off this?

    for example yesterday my squat was 40kg sets 1 and 2 , 45 kg set 3 and 50kg for sets 4 and 5.

    Iv been doing it this way because im basically scared of doing things wrong with no one to show me. Im happy to admit im a complete noob to this type of training, even if iv been training for years and no my stuff in other areas. I know this is my weakness so sorry for the stupid questions.

    Because im in the very early stages of this type of training iv just been "playing around" trying to find a way of increasing weight but not going over board. I mean you might say i should be doing warm up sets and then all 5x5 work sets at my 50kg
     
  3. pichuchu

    pichuchu Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Mr Small i was just wondering if you think if it would be a good idea to do all Strength training on 1 day nstead of splitting it into two or more days?
     
  4. MrSmall

    MrSmall Member Full Member

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    If you are squatting 50kg for 5s, just keep squatting 5s and adding 2.5-5kg every 1-2 weeks as you see fit, until you can do 100 5x5, until then don't do a max, you will get zero benefit apart from an ego boost. It won't be heavy enough to stimulate anything if you do a 70kg 1RM as your new personal best. Yes, you should do multiple sets with the top weight, the 40 and 45kg sets aren't included in the 5x5.
    Squat like this [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rl3Vldo7x4c[/ame]
    Avoid moving your knees in and out though, that's a minor habit he had, but don't emulate that. Chest up, arched back, full depth, head up, straight up and down. No leaning over, no rounding back, no dropping the chest etc. Big breath before the harder reps, take a breath before all reps anyway.

    Split it over as many days as you like, it won't make a HUGE difference if the volume/exercises are the same, i.e if on one day a week you do squat, deadlift, bench, and if you did it 3 days a week you did deadlift one day, squat another day,bench another day, it wouldn't make much difference, but if you did squat deadlift bench 3x a week instead of 1x, it will make a big difference.
     
  5. Windigo

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  7. Johnboy2007

    Johnboy2007 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thanks so much mr small! great advice , feel like i can make a good start on decent strength training now and not be worried if im doing it right!
     
  8. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    How do you get stronger?

    This little sucker right here

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    52 weeks in a year 5lbs a week is 260lbs. Will you always go up 5lbs a week? **** no! But if you are always striving to add that those 2 1/2lbs weights you will be amazed at just how fast you progress and how strong you get. Dont try and compete against other people. Now you are dependent that those people work as hard as you. Keep a log and compeate against yourself. You will push yourself harder than anyone else.
     
  9. aramini

    aramini Boxing Addict Full Member

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    wow that is some serious strength to weight ratio. sweet lord. need to look up his height - did his chest go out to his elbows?
     
  10. Windigo

    Windigo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No he is built like an athleat.

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    about the heaviest you will see him
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  11. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Well yes, power lifting is an advanced stage of exercise. I'm aware of that.
     
  12. viru§™

    viru§™ Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Wow. I really got under your skin didn't I? :lol::lol::lol:

    This thread is about lifting weights. You've managed to bring a silly, pointless argument from the other thread into this one with a few immature jabs. Good job sir!!

    Grow up a bit mate. You seem like a smart bloke, you can stop trying to prove yourself now.
     
  13. Windigo

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  14. Rakim

    Rakim Captain ****wit Full Member

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    Did day 1 today (apart from back extensions, can't do them). This is the first time since I last squatted/deadlifted heavy that I've come home from the gym knackered, sweating, and a little bit shaky. I wasi n the gym for 55 minutes as well, instead of the usual 30.

    Cheers Smalls :good
     
  15. lefty

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    Care to share any of this research on intramuscular fat? I had a look at a number of databases for something to support what you were saying about it in the other thread and I couldn't find a single thing. What you're saying about intramuscular fat makes no sense. I don't think you understand the human body at all, you're trying to apply something complex to something that isn't actually that complex. Instead of listening and believing whatever your mentor says how about learning some things for yourself? It's a fine line between having enough macronutrients for what you need and not having enough, it's far worse for an athletes performance to have too little. That's why you see strong powerlifters and olympic lifters with a bit of visible fat on them alot of the time.
    It's not for the reason you think it is and whoever told you that intramuscular fat is important for strength doesn't know what they're talking about, they've connected two things together that don't go together. You claim that athletes store more intramuscular fat, and that's true when it comes to endurance athletes.