Question about Pressure Fighters & Classification

Joe Louis falls into that category too. Tony Canzoneri too. Pressure-counterpunchers?

I don´t think much of those classifications. They are very shallow anyway since every fighter has an individual style.

 

A swarmer with lower output is a slugger. Volume defines swarming.

 

Boxer-puncher.

 

McGrain has it right.

Dick Tiger is one such example, he would pressure his opponents, make them react and then counter with power punches. He rarely "swarmed" his opponents but rather walked them down. A swarmer obviously throws a volume of punches but a pressure fighter doesn't necessarily have to be a swarmer, nor a slugger (a term usually reserved for wild punchers).

 

Di tullio is correct in that the proper name for what I call these guys is usually just Boxer-puncher. Louis, Marquez, Canzoneri all fit well in this convenient slot here.

At the heavyweight level it's hard to classify swarmers(and you'll see most HW swarmers are swarmer/slugger hybrids like Tyson, Marciano and Dempsey) due to overall less sophisticated movement and decreased volume. But the goal is the same-to weave or slip inside crash as many heavy blows to the head and body as you can. and so I call them that.

 

Boxer-puncher is a fairly broad term. You could put a lot of different type of boxers in that category.

 

Clottey-Judah and Mayweather-Judah are pretty good examples of this, by the way. It's funny, you can throw a lot of punches and not necessarily be a pressure fighter (Pacquiao), and you can put on pressure and not throw a lot of punches (Mayweather).

Yes, I'm Pacquiao-Mayweathering this thread.

 

Sal Sanchez too. I think of fighters that do this as aggressive counter-punchers that utilize angles and like to stay in punching range so they can parry/slip/weave punches effectively then unload their arsenal after making their opponents miss. Fighters like these control distance and love to keep the distance close enough to their opponents so they don't have to lunge in order to counter. They also have high Ring IQs and use most of their punches effectively and generally are pretty accurate. Look at Sanchez' fights (esp with Lopez) for a better grasp of what I mean.

 

He pressured Mosley despite not overwhelming him as did Wright(also when he fought Trinidad). Do they usually fight like this? Not really but they used lots of pressure despite not having high outputs.

 

Well, that's kind of the purpose of the term right? In the paper rock scissors game of swarmer beats boxer beats slugger, there needs to be a fourth category where hybrids of basically all these styles end up. There are tons of different kinds of boxer-puncher, but it works in relation to the other terms.