Question about Vitali's quit job vs Bryd.....Please Hear me out

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rLdggqtaWw


    Now Watch the fight, especially 9th round. Vitali is defintley in pain, but as you can see he is still effectivley using his left hand(the one thats damaged)......its not like its a completley useless dead weight hanging limb. vitlai is consistently using it and continues to land it the whole round.

    Now my question is......why couldnt vitali have just gone out there for the last 2-3 rounds and do exactley what he did in the 9th round? is that too much to ask?

    its not like he was facing a killer in there, he was facing a feather fisted pudgy cruiserweight who took the fight on 10 days notice..who needed a KNOCKOUT to win.


    vitali was champ, I believe judging from the 9th round he could have gone back out there sucked it up like he did and won the easy decision and admiration of all the fans as being tough, NOT TO MENTION keep his heavyweight title(something i would think he considered important)


    ps did you know evander holyfield fought the last 11 rounds vs chris bryd with the same exact injury? evandr had no shot of winning, yet he still fought on. I figure vitali being champion and having the fight locked up, it would give him extra insentive to go out and finish what he started??


    Larry Merchant commented after the fight "I cant believe what I just saw. He lacks the mentallity of a champion."
     
  2. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Easy to bash on VITLAY for that but I wouldn't fancy doing 3 rounds against a killer like Byrd with a dead arm.
     
  3. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a shitty quit job. He probably should have persisted. On the other hand, he's not a woman, he showed heart against Lennox Lewis.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    my guess is that in general the mentality in europe is to view boxing as a sport more than a war. It doesn't mean they are less good at it, just that they view it differently. In the Americas, being a boxer is more than just a sport. Its blood and guts, pride, cohones, all that stuff
     
  5. Andrey

    Andrey Active Member Full Member

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    I'll answer it correctly!!!
    And don't listen to anybody else!!!


    Because HE DIDN'T KNOW what it meant.

    The way he was thought and believed is that, you're the best, you getg injured.. go heal and come back another day and take the title back.

    He didn't have an IDEA how bad of a thing quiting is in America. He though he was doing it with honor you can even see by his interview and expression of his face when people questioned his stoppage, he was like WTF??? you wanted me to continue.

    Later he realied what a sin he commited and how that looked to American public and to Larry merchant but before he though getting injured and stopping the fight is completely normal. He he fought Lewis with that mindset he would have quit right after the cut but for Lewis HE KNEW better.

    After he became Americanized, he realized how fighting through adversity is important to public and he displayed he could but he didn't think he had to in Byrd fight.



    Andrey
     
  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Interesting Andrey
     
  7. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's not the case at all, certainly not with VITLAY who is a pretty classless piece of **** at the best of times. Cases in point - trying to fight Sanders when he KO'd poor WALD, and trying to attack Lewis while he was being interviewed.

    To his credit WALD doesn't seem to take it quite so personally.
     
  8. Scar

    Scar VIP Member Full Member

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    The fight with Lewis erases all the nonsense here.
     
  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Both these things happened after the Byrd fiasco, at which point its safe to assume Vitali's outlook on the sport changed to appeal to the american public..

    If you rewatch the whole Lewis Vitali post fight scene, imo its pretty clear that it was entirely thought out. A show for the cameras

    I am a real Vitali fan here but that is my objective opinion on the subject.
     
  10. Fighting Weight

    Fighting Weight Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You're the first Klitschko fan that's ever actually admitted that to my knowledge. Nice one :good

    I also think he knew the fight was going to be stopped and the jumping around in anger pretending he was surprised was bull**** too.
     
  11. soxfan57

    soxfan57 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PERSONALLY, I think Vitali didn't no better. If he knew the consequences quitting (especially in that scenario) would do to his reputation, he never would've done it.

    AND FOR ME, he proved it when after they DQ'd him vs lennox he was pisssed off. "No! No!"
     
  12. Mind Reader

    Mind Reader J-U-ICE Full Member

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    Good Post.:good
     
  13. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    you're a pretty standard hater. Any positive post about the Klitschkos, you'll respond negatively and throw in an insult, any negative post about the Klitschkos and you'll respond positively and even add in a little emoticon to show your approval. The topic at hand doesn't even matter.
     
  14. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Vitlai hurt his shoulder in round three, and this was picked up by the HBO interpreter. When his arm went dead, Vitlai feared for his career, and retired.

    If the fight was for higher stakes, maybe Vitlai presses on and risks permanent injury. Or maybe if Vitlai had a better corner they could guide him through the match.

    Another SuzieQ discredit type of thread. Give it up! The HOF is full of fighters who quit.

    Even though Vitali was fighting in pain with one arm working arm, he was well ahead of a pretty good prime Chris Byrd. Byrd was lucky to win the fight. No doubt about that. Byrd also wanted NO part of a rematch.
     
  15. Fighting Weight

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    Not really...if you speak the truth it's fair enough. As you said his anger after the fight was mock, as it was when the fight was stopped. I've been saying that for years, I was surprised a Klit fan admitted it that's all, they usually don't.