question for billy nelson

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by boxingcrazy, Apr 9, 2016.


  1. Two Shakes

    Two Shakes Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Groves backed off after Brophy tagged him in the second.

    You need to say what you see and stop pretending to see something else due to your beef with Billy.
     
  2. Solarse

    Solarse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree mate, total mis match and Billy saying he got paid handsomely sums it up. Nothing wrong with that but be a man and admit this is a total mismatch and your looking for a payday,

    I'm not trolling billy but ricky was a poor champion and got luckily on many occasions.
     
  3. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If that helps you sleep at night.. I watched that fight again just there. Had 10 people here last night all wanting Brophy to win. We were all gutted at how the fight went.
     
  4. sjp17

    sjp17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Daviddee1983

    Give it up man your making a fool of yourself !
     
  5. sjp17

    sjp17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    can I get a link to your brothers rec I am honestly not sure who he is ?
     
  6. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Records are for DJ's
     
  7. DavidJames

    DavidJames Active Member Full Member

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    Groves' style proved to be all wrong for Brophy. There are some other good fighters out there who he could mix it with after he rebuilds - but Groves is levels above, and stylistically not a good match. A few wins, maybe a Scottish title, and then chasing the likes on Blackledge would seem reasonable. Hopefully he comes back well.

    Well done David on stepping up.
     
  8. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i totally agree pal, as i have said before he deserves massive credit for taking the fight :good

    imo he needs to get a win under his belt and then straight for john mccallum for the scottish title, that is a very winnable fight and if he wins he can look at the guys in the top 10 of the domestic scene and slowly build up to a shot at the british title. :good

    what he doesn't need after last night is to go back fighting no hopers, he knows he isn't george groves level but we all knew that but he needs to now be in proper fights where he will learn something from each one and have a new problem to deal with. :good
     
  9. Daviddee1983

    Daviddee1983 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Also agree and pretty much what I said. David deserves massive credit.. ***** of steel.. Most fighters would fight anyone that's why you have managers and trainers
     
  10. boxingcrazy

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    hope you don't mind me saying but I've heard that this is one of your brother ronnies biggest problems during his career so far, he doesn't listen to either his manager or his coaches. i have a friend that knows lex easden who has said this, tony linde has said it, billy nelson has said it, he doesn't seem tp have a great relationship with tommy gilmour who although people slag off he does get his boxers the shots but imo he doesn't always build them up properly before the big fights. surely all of these guys can't be telling lies pal? there must be some blame falls at your brother ronnies feet?:good
     
  11. Danielgraham73

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    First things 1st,all credit to Brophy,found out his level and I hope he got paid well for it.

    But..did Peter Harrison's water boy Aka billy Nelson believe that brophy would win against a multiple world title challenger or was he just wanting his mug back on Sky and pick up a few grand.

    BN brings this on himself,he has done for years and you'll get no sympathy given when one of your fighters get beat,this is because you claim there world material already.

    I think you as a respected trainer should hang up your keyboard,as you don't see anybody else getting into arguments with complete bangers like the dundionaians,who live on their brothers dodgy 'Troy' decisions

    Also here is some former / current massive Billy Nelson top prospect picks

    Ally Black
    HMP Jon slowey
    Lewis 'ready for the world' Ritson
    Stephen thank the Lord Usyk was injured simbo
    Mohammed fae Malta
    Aidan McGinn or mcglynn

    Overall Billy your a banger aswell,hang up the keyboard,talk sense and stop arguing with *******s
     
  12. Furey

    Furey EST & REG 2009 Full Member

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    It was a mismatch on paper and it was a mismatch on the night. Boxing is all about levels, Groves is a world class operator.. Brophy knows his way around the ring, is dedicated, gets himself in good shape, puts himself through good sparring but is ultimately not in the league of George Groves.

    I'm a Groves fan, have travelled around watching him fight and wished Billy + David all the best in the lead up but did predict an early finish. Was a bit gutted for Brophy, I'm sure he is a better fighter than he got to show last night.

    Unlikely that he'll get to showcase his talents in a bigger event than that, but I hope after going back to the drawing board he can kick on with his career which I'm sure he will.

    On the flip side, as gutted as he'll be and as I've seen from Twitter feels that he underperformed - he'll have gained a hell of a lot of experience, everything from the pre-fight prep, weigh in, being in with a big name, the pressures of performing on a PPV show etc.

    Groves jab couldn't miss, very classy.
     
  13. TERRYTIBBS

    TERRYTIBBS Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Good summary
     
  14. Daviddee1983

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    I will answer all that honestly mate.. Ronnie is hard work he is a character and a half. He does things his way but he does listen.. There isn't a problem with Lex. Lex was moving away. He was at Ronnie's fight and they would do anything for each other. Lex couldn't and cannot really committ to full time training he is a very very successful fighter and man. As for Tony I actually like Tony but he didn't have a clue what he was doing.. I had to step in numerous times as well as saving the Caird Hall show that was falling apart. If you know Tony you will know he has outside problems and Ronnie decided to move on as it was a shambles.

    Billy promised Ronnie the world and delivered nothing. No one wanted to fight him and Billy wouldn't show up to open the gym if Ricky wasn't training.. I was in the gym a lot he never trained Ronnie he spoke rubbish.. John Mc carron done all Billys donkey work.. As for Tommy he's in the twighlight of his career.. Main focus is the darts.. He struggles to get the right fights at the right time but Tommy is Ronnie's best manager out them all.. They both respect each other it's just I don't believe it fits. I think 10 years ago Tommy would of had Ronnie flying..
    Ronnie is talented but he's just as much to blame as these guys. He just wants to fight and unfortunately he hasn't been built up the right way.. Davie Mcallister will tell you Ronnie is a character but he's also too nice.. What people don't see is he will travel all over the UK to spar to help boxers out..He gives other fighters a chance to work when sparring doesn't make it all about him. If he hurts someone in sparring he eases right back. Does loads of work for the young local Amateurs.

    I've said it before I wouldn't care what he does win or lose as long as he's doing what he loves and puts everything into it. Personally I think he's too respectful of people who disrespect him but I think he's starting to realise. I hope whoever Ronnie ends up with they can get him on the right path. He is capable of winning that British Title and surely that's what any other Scot would want
     
  15. DavidJames

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    Looking at some of the comments on Billy Nelson - the bottom line is that the boxers make their minds up as to who trains them. Brophy must have faith in him and we will see if he decides to make a change or stick with him after this loss. Good luck on whichever path he chooses.

    Talk was of McCallum boxing Tommy Philbin for the Scottish but by all accounts McCallum does not want to be involved in real fights!!!