Question for Floyd Mayweather fans...

Thats the thing, a boxer doesn't have to have an 0 to be considered good. When you fight high caliber opponents that can happen.

Clottey is a good opponent, as i said if Floyd took on Cotto IMO i would still say he is fighting a good opponent.

 

So you honestly believe that the ONLY reason Mayweather gets all the criticism he does is because people dont like him personally? Thats the only reason?

 

No, alot of it is his 'boxing is a business' type of persona...i think he believes that he is the top dog, and the rest should fight it out and the one who emerges victorious will get a shot at him (the king)...people like to see someone whos willing to take on all comers, not just the opponent who brings the most to the table...I believe them not liking his character causes people to unfairly judge his actions...a perfect example is his retirement, the way i see it is that a man with hand problems and no marketable opponent decides to take some time off to let his body heal (i can respect that positon because he's earned the right, its no different then what oscar, bernard etc do), however many see it as him just ducking and being afraid to lose...u can say he wont fight cotto, margarito, clottey because hes scared, but the truth is that they dont bring anything to the table, and then if he does fight them and badly outclasses them people still wont be happy...when he makes the point in interviews it comes off as complaining (which i can understand why its seen like that)

 

see people like u are useless to this forum, u bring nothing to the table...i dont care about floyd mayweather, he doesnt feed me or pay my bills...i like the guy as a fighter and think he's very skilled and unfairly criticized at times...i may not agree with every move he has made in his career but i can respect the logic behind his actions

 

LOL they bring nothing to the table.....are you serious??? What did Baldomir bring to the table eh?? You don't know that he will badly outclass them unless he tests himself......last time i checked boxing was fought in the ring and not by words...."oh he will badly outlass them".....Eh how do you know that? Have you seen the fight?? If you wanna fight by words, then Floyd is the greatest boxer that has ever lived.....EVER LOL.

Btw they bring loads to the table, like being actually a worthy opponent the same size. And they bring money too, to say otherwise being stupid.

 

WHAT??????? SHOCKING!!!!!! No way FLOYD gonna fight CLOTTEY. FLOYD is a super feather weight -lightweight executioner fighting them in WW. He will be SHITTING in his pants the moment he thinks about fighting CLOT. :hat

 

baldomir was the linear champ at the division by way of his victory against judah...pre retirement, floyd fought all of the tough challenges at 147 AT THE TIME, and he happend to retire at a time when there were some decent fighters emerging at that weight...funny u say baldomir isnt a worthy opponent, well before that fight there were many people who said baldo was just too rugged for floyd and would beat him (brian kenny was one of them), and the same with judah. But then again hindsight is 20/20, so its easy to say that since floyd beat these guys easily that they never really were threats when they were actually considered so at the time... like i said hes doing what bernard and oscar and many others do, they establish themselves by beating and fighting the best and once they prove to be a class above the 'contenders' they are only interested in big money fights...if u think that crop of fighters is elite and actually a threat to floyd and he retired because he was scared, then u are not thinking logically...with that being said, he is back, fought his tuneup, now hes gotta get back to fighting at his weight class. imo fighting anyone whos not 147-154 is unacceptable with the exception of bradley because he is a vastly talented fighter and a young and hungry champion.

 

If that is the case then it means you are a fan of the man not the boxer.

If you are a fan of the boxer then you would care what he does in the ring and not follow blindly. What is the point of follow the career of a boxer if he does nothing of significance? Unless all you care about is the man himself regardless of what he does.

Not trying to diss you but just wanted to explain there is a difference between being a fan and a lover.

 

u cant compare Pac to Floyd, because Pac has to fight these guys to make a name for himself, and if u ask me his opponents in his ascencion thru the weight classes is more handpicked then when floyd did it...manny is now at that level mayweather was at, and i commend him for fighting clottey, which is a high risk, low reward fight that floyd was reluctant to take and therefore opted to retire and let his body heal...but that doesnt take away from the fact that they both have earned the right to only fight the megafights at this stage of their careers, and to a certain extent mannys refusal to fight has cornered floyd into a position where he has to take one of those high risk low reward fights because there are no megafights available...its hard to rationalize with someone who considers 5 division world champions with 40-0 records against good competition as being 'scared' of a few average fighters...mannys great, but to think that asking for stricter PED testing is a way to duck a fight is outrageous.

 

He has fought no one of note at 147 full stop. Linear champion haha....no, more like a belt holder and one of the worst champs i've seen, now you are sounding stupid

Margo, Cotto, Mosley, Williams, Quintana, Berto.

How long has Floyd been a welter for? Ask yourself that and then ask yourself why hasn't he fought any of the fighters above?? He turned down Margo and instead fought Baldo.....thats call ducking my friend.

Funny you say Bhop and Oscar, they both challenged themselves (albeit when Oscar took on Pac, as i thought that was a cherry pick by Oscar at the time). Floyd is nothing like them he is a DUCKER.

 

floyd was retired for 2 of his 4 years, and in the first two he accomplished a few things, like ummmmmmm establishing himself as THE MAN at 147, so obviously he beat someone of note to become the man at the weight division...lol so floyd ducked the WBO titleholder to face the linear champion!?!?! of course its easy to look now and say margo was better then baldo, what about at the time tho? was anybody demanding a floyd-margo match?...of course margo wanted one, everybody wants a shot at the undefeated superstar...and by the way, floyd tried to fight margo after the Zab loss, and margo declined because he had a fight lined up with some bum

 

HE HAS NEVER BEEN THE MAN AT 147.

No one questions him at the lower weights, the guy is class and has skills, i would be stupid to say otherwise.

Margo at the time was much better than Baldo, Floyd DUCKED him and everyone knows it.

 

This argument is really lame. Who cares what happened before. Right now it's the fight that makes the most sense and Mosley is more than willing to fight him. Mosley is only fighting Berto because Floyd refused to fight him. You can say that it's mosley's fight that it didn't happen before but right now it's floyd's fault. You can say that there are 2 sides to every negotiation but Floyd isn't even willing to enter into negotiations for that fight.

If you are going to pass on the best available fight out of spite that you didn't get the fight before then you are a moron and as a fan I refuse to watch you fight another tune up.

 

baldo was on a 20 somthing fight winning streak and just had defeated the undisputed champ at 147...who had margo beat? cintron!?!?! lolololol....hmmmm so you beat the guy who was man at the division, then the guy who deafeated him, and somehow you dont become the man?

 

I agree. if Floyd had fought Margo, people would have said that he should have fought Baldo. Really I would have liked to see him fight both but I can understand why he only fought one of the, the DLH fight was next and you just can't pass up an oppurtunity like that.