Question for PED experts.

EPO is EPO, it will always do the same thing, and that's to increase your red blood cell. The drug might be gone, but it will show it's effects on your lab results. In a normal person, your red blood cells have a lifespan of 120 days (approx 17 weeks). We're not talking about a year here, we're talking 10-8 week period.

 

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No EPO is a natural hormone. Synthetic EPO mimics the effects of the natural hormone. So you don't know what the hell you are talking about.

Its "effects" could be normal for some people. Hemoglobin levels vary person to person. So the "effect" is pointless. You must test the protein molecules. If the test isn't looking you pass.

Your body produces red blood cells INSANELY fast so something like EPO could be used fairly quickly.

We still haven't talked blood loading which is UNDETECTABLE without regular baseline measurements. The military does it on special ops.

 

It doesn't ****in matter anymore. FLoyd asked for 14 days. Manny accepted. End of.
Fight already.
Only bitches move poles.

 

Please tell what these effects are Mr. Expert?

Yes, Hgb/Hct is different in every person, but there is a baseline of normality:

Hgb (Male) 14 – 18 g/dL
Hgb (Female) 11 – 16 g/dL
Hgb (Child) 10 – 14 g/dL
Hgb (Newborn) 15 – 25 g/dL

Hct (Male) 39 – 54%
Hct (Female) 34 – 47%
Hct (Child) 30 – 42%




I'm not even going to touch this:

"Your body produces red blood cells INSANELY fast so something like EPO could be used fairly quickly."

...but just say to look up the lifespan of red blood cells.

 

Why are you clowns still debating drugs, EPO, and all that ****? Don't you even get sick of it? Now that Pac accepted Floyd's 14 day window it doesn't matter anymore.

 

Ask the Mayweathers. They seem to be experts on PEDs and other undetectable illegal substances.

 

Yes there is clown but Pac is asking for NO BLOOD TESTING! We are also dealing with world class athletes who's bodies may literally be different from normal parameters.

I know the lifespan of a red blood cell you idiot. What does the lifespan mean? If his red blood cell count is up AFTER the fight and he whips his opponents ass or is unable to be found to even test WTF does it matter?

Again, you play ignorant in your Pacland fantasy. When you see the fight you will know the truth.

 

An actual PED expert Victor Conte stated that a 14 day cutoff is too wide. he suggested even 4 to 5 days is pushing it, as there are PED's(EPO for one) which can be passed out of the system/masked in less than 24 hours.

 

I must have been misinformed because I thought the problem was the cut off date.

 

uh.. who cares.

 

No that is the NEW problem. Pac has gone from:

-- No blood due to fear of needles, weakening, size
-- Too many blood tests
-- Too much blood volume per test
-- Not random
-- 30, 24 and now 14 day cut off dates

He even qualified this BS "acceptance" of 14 days with "as long as it isn't too much blood". WTF does that mean?

It is a backdoor to bail and fight Margarito.

 

Its not 'my point' first of all, its Victor Conte's point. I think he knows a bit more than you and I on the subject of PED's. :think

Second, you missed a key phrase... "he suggested even 4 to 5 days is pushing it, as there are PED's(EPO for one)"... That means, EPO is not the only PED that an abuser can use and mask and/or pass from the system in 24 to 48 hours. There are others as well, thus the importance of unlimited random blood and urine testing.

 

there is no known PED that Pac could take and get away with from what he has offered except for HGH which USADA has never detected anyway.

 

Maybe Pac can agree to be monitored by some agents (USADA?) from 14 days up to the fight. They will be there where he is everytime. They can also monitor the food and supplement preparations to see whether there is something in there that is considered PED.