Question for PED experts.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Predicto, May 20, 2010.


  1. dodong

    dodong >>PACQUIAO Full Member

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    Too bad, if JMM could have only beaten Floyd, pee drinking would have overtaken EPO and steroids as a performance enhancement of choice among some boxers.
     
  2. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sad to say, scientists does not have access to cheating athletes or even non-cheating top athletes for their test panels. What they find out is just the basics.
    You can pretty much trust Conte's message here.
     
  3. Zacker

    Zacker Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Some more for you. All the tests the WADA uses are published (obviously, otherwise they would not hold as evidence in the sports court). Most of the tests you could order yourself.
     
  4. 1HitterQuitter

    1HitterQuitter RUTHLESS BY LAW Full Member

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    i know right?! fukin common sense mayweather fans! Even most Marquez fans think hes clean!
     
  5. kartog

    kartog Agent Smith Full Member

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    You're a joker, right?

    What in ****ing hell could Manny Pacquiao do in "8 or 9 days of hard training" that would scare the bejeezus out of anybody on earth? :huh
     
  6. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Unless you get the increased red blood cells, you never gained anything even if you take gallons of it.

    That is why hematocrit is used as SCREENING (a blood test), meaning to detect suspicious athletes, because it is cheap. However, urine test is the defintive test and it can even detect EPO use months after the initial dose.

    Besides, RBC count does not increase significantly within 2 weeks and an after fight blood examination would easily detect who is suspicious anyway.

    Blood loading is the same as having EPO because you will have very hight hematocrit levels. Same with altitude training, which is a legit way of gaining advantage of increased red blood cell counts without drugs or blood transfusion.

    The principle behind the benefit is the more RBC, the more oxygen carrying cell, the more endurance plus the longer for lactic acidosis to occur.
     
  7. FORMIDABLE

    FORMIDABLE Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Possibly only the mystical A-side Meth he's supposed to be taking.
     
  8. eko718

    eko718 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe Victor Conte should consult you...:patsch
     
  9. JLocs

    JLocs Guest

    RIGHT ON:goodGOOD POST
     
  10. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm a PED expert.

    Pacman is on roids






    LOL
     
  11. JLocs

    JLocs Guest

    EVEN MARQUEZ fans think he is a CHEAT and a COWARD.any time somebody comes too yourhouse to fight you and you back down saying this BUSINESS is OVER.WHEN HE GAVE MORALES a third fight and not HIM PAC IS A COWARD TO MEXICANS STRAIGHT UP...........:good
     
  12. Jetmax

    Jetmax Boxing Addict Full Member

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    You're a PEDtard! :tong
     
  13. agila2004a

    agila2004a Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeah, only haters..lol
     
  14. bigdog2001

    bigdog2001 Guest

    Okay fellas there is over 100 different variations of EPO this is why they implemented blood testing to detected it, as previously in 2003 it was though that urine would be the only way to test it, turns out a chemist found ways of beating that test.

    HGH could be taken for 10 days at 10ius a day to get some great healing results and allow manny to perform better come fight night i would be out of his stystem after the post fight test.

    Epo can also be used as a loading phashe in which manny could take a shot every day for 9 days and then lay off. His red blood cell would still be high but epo would not be detected in his post fight test.

    ILGRF could be taken also and could be taken up to the day of the fight and he would pass a post fight test.

    Other drugs such as halotestin and cheque drop can be used up to a few days (halo) and a day up to the fight or even 2 hours before the fight (cheque drops) for extreme strenght and aggresiveness boost.