Question for Stonehands89

Can I ask why 15 rounds? It's plainly obvious that favours Duran. He went 15 rounds on a number of ocassions. And to reach 15 rounds he obviously has reach the magic number of '12'. Whitaker never went 15 rounds at any point during his career. So obviously it's clearly unfair. Not even debatable IMO. By making a prediction over 15 rounds is unknown territory for Whitaker. He might well have went 15 rounds no problem or he could have struggled. That in itself is a wild guess.

It's not a case of me giving Whitaker any advantage here, as it's clearly even with 12. The same can't be said of the fight being sheduled for 15 rounds.

Just to let everyone know. When any fighter from the decades ago is matched against a modern day fighter I give my prediction based on 12 rounds. ALWAYS

It's common sense. If anyone doesn't see that, god help them.

 

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I would actually prefer to see 15 rounders back in the game. Part of the reason they were done away with was that most fatalities were happening down the stretch. The Mancini-Kim fight was the begining of the end for 15 round title fights.

But fighters now have sufficient time to rehydrate themselves with the weigh-in over 24 hours before the first bell rings. Medical equipment has also came on leaps and bounds since the early-mid 80's.

It's cool with your prediction still favouring Duran over 12 rounds. I wasn't expecting you to change your mind by any means. IMO it's a superb dream match. Two fighters with different styles and strengths, yet are both complete and underrated in some areas of their game.

 

Stonehands. Ive been a regular on here for 4 years, although I disappear from time to time. And the general forum doesn't interest myself, just the odd post now and again.

I'll use 15 round fights when it's appropriate. For example Monzon v Robinson and Arguello v Sanchez. However, my thoughts on the matter regarding modern day fighters being matched in fantasy match-ups against fighters who strictly went 15 has been put forward.

Peoples opinions should be based on common sense and fairness. Not, "well this is the classic forum about greats from the past and most of those who get talked about on here went 15 rounds" or "Well I'm 45 years old and when I was a teenager I prefered to watch 15 rounders as it seperates the men from the boys"

Duran v Whitaker, Lewis v Louis. It's a clear advantage right away for Duran and Louis if those match-ups are asked to be decided over 15 rounds. However, the same can't be said over 12 rounds. Fighters of the last 20 years are more programmed and use to going only 12 rounds than their counterparts from years before who went 15, thats all that I can think of when of when it comes to any sort of advantage. But it's all about stamina and endurance. And if you can do 15, you can do 12. The same can't be said when it's vice versa as it's unknown territory. It actually hampers the prediction somewhat.

It's not about favouring fighters who only 12 rounds or being influenced by any anything else.

No amount of paragraphs you reply with will change my mind. IMO it's not a complex situation.

Duran v Whitaker over 15 rounds? I have no idea Stonehands. Whitaker never went 15 rounds so my prediction would be rather distorted and unconvincing if I was to say he'd win. It would be a wild guess and I'd be assuming his stamina would be uneffected with the three extra rounds.

 

If you want to match modern day fighters against old timers and opt for 15 rounds, thats your call. I disagree with it strongly and feel it's unrealistic to a certain degree when making a fair call on picking the winner. Simply because fighters over the last 20 years or so never went 15 rounds and it's clearly an advantage to the fighters who did.

And another thing "...I almost feel like asking you to go back over your classic fight predictions and control them for 15 rounds instead of 12 rounds " The extra three rounds benefit guys like Monzon and Duran when matching them with fighters the decade or so after and todays fighters.

I'll give my prediction on any thread, eg; Monzon v Hopkins, 15 rounds who wins? But my conclusion won't be any different to a 12 round affair. Just to keep things simple.

PS: I've been enjoying our toe-to-toe exhanges over the last few weeks. It's good to battle with the old Stonehands. I have been rattled a few times, but I've had you on the ropes for brief periods. I'll last the distance, don't you worry about that.