Question for the experts...

he trains 8 days a week

 

trying too hard to put on muscle and strength and losing your agility

Or just burning yourself out in training and being mentally exhausted by the time its fight night

these are just guesses

 

You don't want your guy to peak in the gym.

Basically you have a gauge of how progress normally works. Margarito trains for 2 months. If he were to spend an additional week or two then he may hit his peak performance in the gym, thus wasting it.

Anything after the peak is a combination of mental and physical fatigue. The body enters an expected cooldown state and so does the mind. This is why breaking from a boxer's traditional workout regime is a bad idea. It's risky and could cause him to peak early.

 

This post is pretty much right on the money. Fighters only train for a certain period of time, depending on the fighter, and try to time their 'peak' for fight night. You can only maintain your absolute peak performance for so long. Look at bodybuilders, for example, it's the same principle. They cut down to 3-4% bodyfat for a show, but are so drained and weak that they can only maintain that physique for a few days. The same holds true for boxers. The human body has its limits, and you can only push yourself so hard before you become exhausted. If you train to your absolute peak too early, there's really only two options and neither of them are positive. Either you are forced to break from training and lose some of your edge, or you continue to push yourself and risk either injuring yourself from sustaining pushing yourself to the limit, or exhaust yourself by taxing your body too much. Both, obviously, result in a less-than-ideal ring performance.

 

he trains 25/8 hours/days

 

LOL

 

Just watch Frank Bruno's fights. That is the definition of over-training.

 

I believe some fighters can train too hard for too long, I'm not sure but I think a fighter needs a week or two of light training before the fight to allow his body to recouperate from intense training......So I would assume that knowing when to slow down or ease up on the training would be critical in having a fighter in top form on fight night

 

I think Bruno carried too much muscle to make him as effective as he could have been. I'm not sure if I'd call that overtraining, but maybe he could have done with laying off the weights. He had a style that was stiff and robotic, and many attribute that to the large amount of muscle mass he carried around. You can't argue with 38 KOs in 40 wins, though, and he had Lewis badly hurt in the 7th round of their fight, only Lewis managed to catch him with a Hail Mary left hook with his back in the corner that had Bruno on ***** street.

Bruno was also the first fighter to stagger Tyson. He hurt him in their first round of their first fight after being put down quickly. That was the first time anyone had seen Tyson rocked by a punch. Bruno was mechanical, but he had hurtful punches. Tyson said in an interview after the fight that Bruno hit him hard, harder than Biggs, and he came to fight.

 

First off . . . I'm not an expert.

But when boxing people says "over trained" . . . it's a "burn out'. Means a fighter looks off peak . . . tired or slow even before the fight begins.

 

Since i'm no expert either i'm jus going to ask a question. Did Felix Trinidad look overtrained for the Winky fight?? I'm not trying to discredit Winky or anything, but he looked slow, sluggish and pretty much pittiful.

 

Understatement of the year.

 

Certainly not an expert but learning from my trainers and listening to my body I have found the following.

The fighter enters camp to improve his cardio, muscular stamina, timing and durability. He coaxes his body over the course of camp to improve in these areas. Boxing workouts are systemic meaning they effect the body as a whole, muscular and nervous system. Enough time must be taken resting the body so that it recovers and strengthens itself before the next bout of exercise. If not, a gradual decline in the above mentioned goals takes place.

Trainers are always watching for signs that a fighter might be doing too much in his zeal to ready for his opponent. Sometimes a fighter comes into camp over an ideal bodyweight and must therefore engage in more exercise or other methods to lose the weight which can be very taxing. The body does have a priority system if you will. Besides recovering from exercise the body still must regulate temperature, digest and utilize food, grow tissue (muscle, bone) etc. and a myriad of other necessities that take precedent over recovering from roadwork and the like. Signs such as lethargy in the gym, not being able to sleep well or needing too much sleep, timing consistantly off, consistant aches and pains, problems with roadwork, catching cold are some signs to tip off a trainer that his guy might be overextending himself and could benefit from a day or two off to let his body catch up.

 

You can not tell by mere visual observation.