Question for you guys on BHop vs Calzaghe

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by swankinrosco, Jul 11, 2008.


  1. swankinrosco

    swankinrosco New Member Full Member

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    Did anyone else notice how rocked Calzaghe got the two or three times BHop let his hands go on the inside and landed clean shots on Joe? In the replays Joe looked like he'd never been hit so hard and lost his balance.

    After the first round BHop demonstrated Joe's inability to handle those power-combos (if you will call them that for the sake of this post), Freddy started telling BHop to walk him down.

    I don't think Berr-narrrd (as Manny calls him) was aware of the effectiveness he had landing hooks on the inside, cause he's so used to his "power" being a non-issue.

    Every time I watch this fight over, I keep wishing BHop could have pushed forward a bit.


    Agree Disagree?
     
  2. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Hopkins had to conserve energy. He knew that. If he let his hands go and failed, he would've put himself in a bad position where he might've been embarrassed late in the fight. Even with his very minimal work rate, he was still gased in the fight. Just think about that.

    I think his plan was the right one. He did what he had to do. I just think that if he didn't gas late, his right hand counters would've been more harder and precise. If you look at him after he got his 4 minute rest, he looked energized and refreshed. Imagine THAT Hopkins over 12 rounds! Easy UD for Hopkins.
     
  3. adamsutherland

    adamsutherland Member Full Member

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    ofc they were the hardest punches he's ever had hit him, first fight at light-heavy, i had calzaghe winning quite comfortably but imo hopkins won the 2 against taylor
     
  4. Ilesey

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    Bodysnatcher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. swankinrosco

    swankinrosco New Member Full Member

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    man i dunno, go back and watch how rocked he was eating those hooks on-infighting
     
  7. JMonster

    JMonster Active Member Full Member

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    i don't know about his "power" but maybe his angles that he creates and accurate punches he could have taken him out
     
  8. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bhop is retirement material. He can't even throw double digits in a round. It is rather pathetic how he tries to hide it.
     
  9. Amsterdam

    Amsterdam Boris Christoff Full Member

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    Another factor is when Hopkins did try to press(when he had energy), he was not successful 90% of time, losing the inside exchange with Calzaghe, then he retreated back to the counter puncher/cheating role, as pressing against Calzaghe is an assured loss, while making Calzaghe come at you is bringing out his vulnerability.

    Either way, he lost very wide, the KD was a flash KD, Calzaghe was not hurt and I believe that threw a lot of people off in scoring the fight.

    9 rounds to 3 is not a close fight and Hopkins did indeed lose 90% of the close exchanges, despite the inside fighting generally being one of his signature things. He was rendered useless in the bout after Calzaghe nullified the right hand and then went about surviving, which he is possibly the best at in the sport even now.

    Prime to prime, Calzaghe would have still nullified the right hand, Hopkins would have pressed more and you'd have had a very competitive, closer fight that ended controversially and likely would be best scored as a draw in a 12 rounder, my take.
     
  10. mike464

    mike464 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :rofl
     
  11. ocelot

    ocelot Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    At LHW Hopkins definitely had the power to take Calzaghe out. The problem was that Calzaghe rarely allowed him to hit him flush. Otherwise Calzaghe would most definitely have landed on his ass again, and might have stayed there.
     
  12. klion22

    klion22 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Dear lord, you bring no objectivity to the table when it comes to this debate.
     
  13. Samurai

    Samurai I lost an avatar bet Full Member

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    Exact same score I had it. Clear win for Joe if you ask me. It's absurd when I read comments like "Joe arguably lost."
     
  14. chino2dapiapimp

    chino2dapiapimp WBC Fecarbox champ Full Member

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    He might have had the power to finish him, but his experience told him that it was too early in the fight and Calzaghe's conditioning would help him recover very fast. Had he attempted to finish him and failed he would have been drained and dead by mid rounds(especially at his age were he is conservative with energy). If the KD would had happened in the 11th or 12th I could see Bhop trying to finish cal off. who knows maybe he could have.
     
  15. fidds

    fidds Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :huh

    Im confused i saw calzaghe hurt once properly in his whole career against byron mitchel and that same round byron mitchel got ktfo :lol:

    Joe Calzaghe = iron chin no way was he even close to be ko'd or stopped vs bhop :patsch

    He got flash knocked down thats it, he took harder shots from eubank, reid, mitchel and kessler :deal