how is it possible that the new york state athletic commission stripped ali of his title as world champion when he refused to go in the army ???? is it a great example of the arrogance of america ?? if you break the law in anyway the goverment must try to prove that in court and then a judge will give you a sentence.. being it a money penalty or jailtime or whatever. but if you are champion in whatever sport you are still champion..breaking the law in anyway or not... so how did the new york state athletic commission have the authority to take away : A WORLD TITLE ?? does anyone now this ??
Evading the draft at that time was punishable by law. Now we don't really have to deal with the draft. Ali was supposed to go through standard punishment of jail time, but some strings got pulled because he's a champ and all. In the case of jail time you can't defend your title and for the sport of boxing it's a good move to have an active champ. Hence NY state commission making the move to continue the sport. For as good as Ali was he isn't worth suspending the sport of boxing over. Also, the athletic commissions at that time were loosely held together. The BBB of C once recognized Lee Savold as a champ instead of Ezzard Charles when Joe Louis retired. I think you've got a lot of gaps in your post and you should do a lot of extra reading to figure out the situation. One post cannot answer all the details you've attempted to skew.
what i ment was how can a commision of a state take away a world title ? wich is given by another organization ? and like i said if you don't break the rules of you're sport then the sport organizations have no bussiness with what you do or what rules you break in you're private life.... for example we had a footballplayer here in holland who drove way to fast where that wasn't allowed and killed a man by doing so. he got punsihment by the judge. but the organization of footballplayers and there clubs didn't take away his prizes or said :" you are no longer allowed to practice you're sport". what i red was that on the day ali got arrested (so way before it came to court) the new york state athletic commission already took his title. without him breaking any rules considering his sport.
That state refused to recognize someone that was evading the draft. It was a really touchy issue then and at that time, that's how they handled it. Recently Reggie Bush (American footballer) had his records stripped because he violated NCAA rules.
LOL, yes then the comebacking (post Charles defeat) Louis beats Savold, and the BBB of C is hailing King Ezzard!
If I understand things correctly, the court issued an injunction against Ali preventing him from boxing. This meant that Ali could not defend his title. Thus, the sanctioning bodies stripped Ali of his championship. Until the courts allowed Ali to box again, there was no point in keeping him as champion. I may be wrong, but I think this is what happened.
I think that all round the world Ali was still recognised as champ, the problem was that he was stripped before he was ever found guilty of anything in a court of law innocent untuil proven guilty.A Black spot in American history for sure.
Basically, when Ali refused to go in the army, all American state boxing commissions as well as local politicians, governors, mayors etc. nationwide, declared that Ali would not be licenseed to fight in that state or city. The sanctioning bodies, NY Commission, WBA etc., used that as a reason to stripped him of their recognition as the world champion. It was all politically-motivated and a knee jerk chain reaction. Nevertheless, Ali could have in theory defended his title elsewhere, and he was still recognized by RING magazine and some other countries' boxing establishment and most importantly by the people of the world. But their were obvious practical and legal difficulties in leaving the USA having refused conscription into the US military.
Ali refused to serve his country.Period...If he was not the celebrity he was, he would have been put in prison, as others were who refused to go into the service...Anyone who is a draft dodger, regardless of your reasons must pay the price, or anarchy will reign..Stripping him of his belt was a slap on the wrist,as other poor schnooks had to take his place... I was drafted years before as millions of others were..We did not want to leave our jobs and families, but we went, as it was our sacred duty to defend our country...If not us, who ?
