Question On Arum: Would Arum Cut Pac Loose To Fight Mayweather?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by sp550i, Sep 20, 2011.


  1. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    that's my point. Arum clearly has made a certain position on fighting pacquiao. If you don't do it under my umbrella its just not happening. It's clear that this guy wants his money and will play dirty to get it.

    So my question is would pacquiao do what others have had to do to fight him (pacquiao) to fight mayweather?


    I just think its so unfair that bob arum is doing this to this fight, so I just want to know hwat people think of this. I mean why wouldn't pac leave his promoter? Who the **** cares, its not like arum is his family member. He's just a greedy politician that sets the fight up, if pacquiao didn't line his pockets he wouldn't give a **** about pacquiao to be honest.
     
  2. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Pac would not make such a demand, but Arum has openly stated that Pac would never fight a Goldenboy fighter. He said this right before Marquez left GBP.

    Pac's last 4 opponents have all either left GBP or been under Arum's company already.

    He has not negotiated with ANY other promoters about putting thier fighters in with Pac.

    He doesnt do it with Cotto either (Mayorga notwithstanding but he had no chance to win). Can you see the pattern?
     
  3. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    so is it fair to say that the person that is "PROBABLY" preventing this fight from happening is Arum?


    I'm 100% sure that both floyd & manny want this fight and are not scared of one another. Manny has stated that he wants the fight & is ready for full on testing. So manny shouldn't have problem leaving arum.

    They aren't brohters, cousins, father & son. They are business partners and at this point this fight has grew to be larger than a business. It is important for the sake of all of boxing that this fight happen. Atleast for now
     
  4. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Arum simply isnt capable of anything like that, and everyone knows it. Nor should he really have to "give up" Pac to make this fight happen.

    If Arum wants to make this fight, then he'll have to sit down with GBP and Al Haymon, swallow his pride, and get his client the biggest payday of his career and negotiate fair terms for the bout.

    In other words, he can simply do his ****ing job and then shut the **** up and cash his disgustingly large check. :deal
     
  5. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There.

    Game over.

    Next.

    Pac let's his promoter do his job and Pac does his job.

    I mean, honestly, people complain about Bradley, but in my opinion Bradley has proven that he is the best fighter at 140lbs.

    I don't know what banner Bradley fighters under, nor do I care, but if not Floyd, what other fight should Pac take?

    You could make an argument that he should fight Martinez, but honestly, I don't think Manny can beat Martinez. In fact, I don't think he can beat Floyd, but it's the fight that people want to see, and it's the fight that is by far the most profitable fight that can be made by each fighter.

    I don't like the Bradley fight anymore than I liked the Ortiz fight, but there is nothing I can do about it...

    It's up to Mayweather to accept the fight. If Pac said he would be willing to take the drug tests, Mayweather needs to go on record and say, "Take the tests, we'll fight."

    They can even make the **** public.

    Just make the fight happen.
     
  6. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    Unfortunately, I only have circumstancial evidence. When Marquez was with GBP, Arum said that Marquez had to prove himself at WW in order to get a fight with Pacquiao. However, once Marquez left GBP and signed with TR, without proving himself at WW, he gets a fight with Pac. Shane was with GBP and begged for a fight with Pac. He even agreed to take the fight at 140 like Roach demanded. He was shot down. Shane went on to lose to Mayweather and Arum said he was washed up, and that he wouldn't match Pac against him. After another poor showing against Mora, Shane leaves GBP and signs with TR. Shortly after, he signs to fight Pac.

    In the end, this could all be a coincidence, but I don't believe so.
     
  7. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly...

    So why are you making assumptions about something you really know nothing about?
     
  8. sp550i

    sp550i Boxing Addict Full Member

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    thats the thing man. Look at the patterns

    Pacquiao doesn't get matched with anyone but top rank fighters.


    Pacquiao doesn't pick who he fights. There are people who get paid to match make pacquiao. Pacquiao just signs a contract, trains and kicks ass. Floyd supposedly handles his own business and he CLEARLY wants this fight as much as pacquiao does.

    The one person we keep hearing inconsistent stuff from is bob arum. Bob arum is not being responsible here. That's why I raise the ? would he cut pacman loose if he is really an honest business man?

    Based on pacs desire for the fight
     
  9. compukiller

    compukiller Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    If you read the rest of my post, you would know that Pac cant make any demands because Pac has no power. Arum runs EVERYTHING!!!
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I do know something about it, and if no one made any assumptions on here, we would have very little to talk about. It's pretty obvious, that Marquez and Mosley leaving GBP and signing with TR is what made those fights happen. It's too big of a coincidence otherwise.
     
  11. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You know what assumptions amount to in this case?

    Gossip.
     
  12. compukiller

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  13. HENDO

    HENDO Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What do you think Pac hires Arum for?
     
  14. purephase

    purephase Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :patsch Do you have a plausible alternative explanation for the events described in that post? What, did Arum just suddenly decide to rewatch the entertaining blockbusters that were Mayweather-Marquez and Mosley-Mora and decide Marquez and Mosley would in fact make good opponents for Pacquiao (coincidentally at the same exact time they left his promotional rival)? It's circumstantial evidence but it's pretty damning in this case. Additionally, if this is the view that you're going to take about fight negotiations, then I hope you never say anything about them in general, since what could we mere fans ever possibly hope to know about things that occur in backrooms?
     
  15. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    I'm not sure if you're not getting it or are just playing games with me. Either way, we're obviously not going to get anywhere with this disscussion. We'll agree to dissagree.