Question: Who do you think is the WORST Heavyweight Champion In History?

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  1. Eastwood

    Eastwood Clueless Millennial Boxing Fan Full Member

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    I always liked Parker but honestly i could see him losing to Valuev on Judges. VS Hughie Fury he didn't look super good in my opinion. He also hasn't fought the best competition either, I think Junior Fa gave him some problems.
     
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  2. Col Mortimer

    Col Mortimer The question isn't indiscreet.The answer could be Full Member

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    I totally agree. Frustrating though that both Douglas & Ruiz showed such great potential in winning the belts in the way that they did only to pretty much throw it all away.

    That for me personally is a more defining reason for using the term "worst" Champion rather than fighters who just never really made the grade for reasons other than that.
     
  3. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    lol! Wilder landed 75 punches on Fury in their first match compared to Fury landing 85 shots,Wilder landed counter jabs on Fury, no way Could Valuev could have done that, Wilder has more one punch KO`s than Valuev had and would have destroyed him, no way could Valuev have knocked Fury down and nearly finish him.
     
  4. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Parker is far quicker than Valuev was.
     
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  5. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    If Wilder tries to KO Valuev he will gas and get KOed himself. He could stun him temporarily, but the blue print to beat Valuev is to move in land quick punches and move out. Wilder can't box and will never execute this game plan.
     
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  6. Philly161

    Philly161 "Fundamentals are the crutch of the talentless" Full Member

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    post joe louis, since i don't know the old timers. but would probably consider Canera (of those who succesfully defended at least once) just based on his suspicious career and low esteem among experts at the time.

    i consider based on the following critera:
    championship resume
    h2h potential
    entertainment value (or more lack thereof)

    champs who SUCCESFULLY defended at least once post joe louis who i think are in the discussion. no secondary champs bc those aren't the champ:

    John Ruiz (mostly for just being ugly as hell to watch but h2h he would be able to win stinker decisions too much to be the worst)
    Nicholai Valuev (also ugly to watch, some shady decisions, and unimpressive resume but still his physical gifts make him h2h better than some of the others imo)
    Francisco Damiani (wasn't considered a real champion at the time by most though now retroactively is considered one. h2h pretty low on the list but he wasn't terrible to watch)
    Henry Akinwande (definitely a contender)
    Sultan Ibragimov (beat briggs, defended once then got dominated by wlad. h2h bottom of the barrel for me)
    Joseph Parker (i think he lost to ruiz, ugly boring fights against Hughie and AJ)

    For me, I think it's gotta be Ibragimov, Parker or Akinwande
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Haye hurt Valuev, Wilder would hit him at will, Valuev benefitted from his huge reach but Wilder`s reach is far longer than any reach of Valuev`s opponents, Wildder is superior to prime Valuev in every department, Ortiz would have handled Vluev with ease and is far beter than anybody Valuev beat.
     
  8. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Richard Duke of York Full Member

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    Akinwande maybe, probably not Parker who is ordinary but not that bad, and definitely not Ibragimov, who is actually underrated and often beat men much bigger than himself.

    Sultan had excellent boxing skills, developed in the amateurs fighting in the "under 200" category. He won a silver medal in the 2000 Olympics. However he was somewhat too small for pro heavyweight (or amateur super heavyweight).



     
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  9. Scott Cork

    Scott Cork Active Member Full Member

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    I am shocked nobody has mentioned Bentt.
     
  10. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Deontay Wilder is the obvious choice here.
     
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    VG_Addict Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    That's not saying much. Telephone poles are quicker and more mobile than Valuev.
     
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  13. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Indeed.

    When you have a champion who held the belt that long, ducked undisputed against a fairly average unified champion and spent most of his reign knocking out journeymen... It's got to count for something.

    Normally longevity is a sign of strength, but when your longevity comes as a result of cowardice in matchmaking it suggests a deep seated disbelief in your own ability to step up.
     
  14. red corner

    red corner Active Member Full Member

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    But he had title defenses. I'd say Braddock.
     
  15. Heavy_Hitter

    Heavy_Hitter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Haye stunned him for a split second in the 12th and Haye is a much better boxer than Wilder.
    In which department is Wilder superior to Valuev? Only speed.
     
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