I've been away from the business of boxing for a while and I haven't followed all the turns of this saga. Would some knowledgeable, objective, respectable posters care to answer these questions for me, please, to fill me in? 1. Who was the guy who reported that a member of Pacquiao's team is supposed to have written to ask Mayweather's team whether the fight between the two would still go ahead if it was proven that Pacquiao had been taking performance enhancing drugs, as long as Pacquiao paid a penalty sum? 2. Who was the guy from the Pacquiao team who is supposed to have written to Mayweather's team to ask that question? 3. What was the drug in question supposed to have been and why was this drug the one the accusations concentrated on in the first place? 4. How did the guy in question defend himself when these accusations were made? 5. How did the Mayweather team react to this guy's defence? 6. Why did Pacquiao in the end elect not to take the drug tests that the Mayweather camp wished he should take, in order to make the fight? 7. What's the latest on the whole saga? Is there a chance the two will still fight? Under what circumstances? Thanks in advance to those knowledgeable, objective, respectable posters who will give their time to answer my questions.
1. Teddy Atlas and someone else in a news paper - I dont believe this to be true 2. We dont know 3. It would be some form of steroid I would have to guess, but that is speculation. The Mayweathers seem to think Manny was using some kind of PED/HGH that would not be detected in urine samples such as the clear and the cream that Shane Mosely took and did not show up in his tests. However lately they have been refering to A-side meth? 4. I'm not sure if he (Pacquiao) actually directly responded to this. 5. In the whole debacle Mayweather were to be honest suprisingly quiet and very together and gave the impression. It was team Pacquiao who didnt come out to well as they had some very shakey statements such as Pacquiao's nutrisonist claiming that only he knew what Pac was taking and Roach saying that they only needed 5 days out! 6. Well there were a few reasons put out but the main one was that taking blood that close to the fight would weaken him. Also he claimed that he wouldnt conform to "mayweathers rules" and Mayweather and GBP were trying to ruin his good name! 7. They are fighting different opponents not likely imo, unless this was all B.S to build hype for the fight at a latter date, but Floyd has said testing all the way up to the fight this time like what Shane Mosely has agreed to.
Well Mayweather initially asked for random blood and urine testing right up until the fight, Team Pacuiao said no, mean while Roach went on record to say as long as they didnt blood test Manny 5 days before the fight they would be fine. However eventually Team Mayweather offered to cut the tests 14 days before the fight and that too was turned down, I believe Team Pacquaio wanted the cut off to be 24 days before the fight!
I don't know much about steroids but would they have no effect if taken two weeks before a fight? In other words, does it make sense for Mayweather's team to ask for a 14-day-to-the-fight limit?
Apparently these types of steroids in question; EPO, HGH could still be effective....the window has to be as small as possible to stop a user from using and also for a user to have the least amount of benefits from using, Also there were quite a few credible sources who came out to give their expert opinion to this effect. Such as Wada, Victor Conte etc
well pac agreed to test up to 24 days to the fight so training camps last 8 weeks, so that means if he were to take it during training then he would be caught out pacman also said he will do it 1 hour after the fight to prove he wasnt on drugs mayweather then panicked and refused to budge from 14 days, after all he wants to keep that precious 0 then the fraudweather fans started some **** rumours like ted atlas lol that pacman is def on drugs. the whole reason it was done was for mayweather to back out of fighting pac because he is scared
In other words, 14 days is long enough to have an effect? Could he have taken steroids for a short interval during those 24 days such that they would have an effect AND they wouldn't show in the test 1 hour after the fight? e.g. Would steroids taken for, say, 10-14 days have an effect AND flush out in 14-10 days?
Pac had agreed to take the test after the fight that was never a point that was being debated, but experts addressed this and said it was NOT enough. I should point out that Arum was told about the 14 day cut off but it appeared that Pacquiao was not told. Also the two promoters Top Rank and GBP went into mediation and 14 days was again offered, there was a gag order which Arum broke and then the judge who was doing the mediating went on record to correct what Arum was saying! To be honest its a big mess with Pacquiao fans defending their man to the death whilst throwing mud at Mayweather and Mayweather fans doing the same. You need to read all the impartial articles and make up your own mind!
I know I've taken advantage of your kindness already, but would you please point me to 2-3 such articles? Thank you!
"experts" mayweather and his cowardly crack head of a dad. look end of the day if pacman starts off using drugs in training, you would find out within the first 4-5 weeks with the testing. if he is using it for the fight you would find out with the test after mayweather is afraid of him