Questions for Carlos Zarate?

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by ChrisJS, Dec 10, 2019.


  1. Clinton

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    Thanks for sharing, SaintPat!!!!
     
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  2. Jel

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    Yep, definitely. Please share @Saintpat !
     
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  3. Jel

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    Obvious question, I suppose, but I’d like to hear his explanation of his performance in the Gomez fight. Was he underprepared, under the weather or just beaten by a better fighter on that night?
     
  4. Saintpat

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    It was a long time ago and I honestly don’t think it’s online anywhere. And if it is, I’m not going to dox myself.
     
  5. ChrisJS

    ChrisJS Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I’ll be having dinner with him tonight and will try to get these questions answered.
     
  6. Saad54

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    Why did you wait 7 plus years to make a comeback after the disputed loss to Pintor?
     
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  7. Flo_Raiden

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    Would like to know some of the following from him:

    -What are some of his best performances in a fight?

    -His thoughts on Wilfredo Gomez as a fighter, what it was like fighting him, why he didn't perform so well, if he would have wanted to rematch Gomez at that time, and how he would have fought differently if he was given a rematch.

    -How he would describe his boxing style, his strengths/weaknesses and fighters that influenced his fighting style or vice versa.

    -Past or modern fighters around his weight class that he would have wanted to face in his prime.

    -Who are some of his favorite fighters

    -Who he thinks are Top 5 best Mexican fighters of all time.
     
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  8. Flo_Raiden

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    I'd also like to hear his opinion on how he would fare against Chavez, Olivares, Sanchez if he were to have fought them in the same weight class. Like to know if he thinks he would have been able to beat any of them.
     
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  9. ChrisJS

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    Had a good dinner with him. Very nice guy. Funny and you’ll be glad to hear he’s in good shape and is mentally in good shape. Fast witted.

    I got some questions in I’ll write up some of the conversation tomorrow. I’ll try to add the photos. I wore his hall of fame ring which is cool.
     
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  10. ChrisJS

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    Ok so here’s some of the stuff he said loosely based on some of the questions some of you had :-

    The reason he stopped after the Pintor fight was that he was so disgusted with the politics and felt he was robbed. He has/had nothing against Pintor who fought well, especially in the late rounds but he said he was very down. He got back home and said everyday people would see him in the street and tell him he was robbed and it sort of envigorated him and also that Suliaman told him, “I can get you that re-match”. He’d been out of the gym and partying but once he was told that he started training and then Pintor crashed his motorcycle so he went back to partying and drinking. He did not train during his exile and the coming out of retirement wasn’t really planned. In Mexico City there had been a major earthquake so there was a benefit card and he appeared on it and sort of stayed in the gym and before you know he’s had 8, 10, 12 wins then he gets a title fight. He also said it was expensive having kids so it also helped in that regard.

    He said he was upset that the Fenech fight was stopped. He said he knew he was losing but that he’d cut Fenech with a punch and they couldn’t stop that fight soon enough. He isn’t sure if he’d have won but that he’d seen he could give Fenech some problems.

    He said most places it was a pleasant experience but that in Puerto Rico they treated him badly. He did seem upset about that whole experience and said he got sick and wanted a postponement (vs. Gomez) but that due to a stipulation in the contract he’d end up having to pay a lot more than he was due to earn so had to fight though didn’t feel good physically and had to lose weight. Said Gomez got his when he then had the issue of having to lose weight and got beat by Sanchez. He said his favorite place to fight was here in Los Angeles, particularly at The Forum.

    I asked about who the greatest 5 Mexican fighters were. He said he really can’t narrow it down and that there’s too many and that he was close to many so doesn’t like to leave some out. He said as a youngster his favorites were Sugar Ramos, Jose Medel, Jose Napoles, Vicente Saldivar. He did rank the modern Mexican greats however and said 1. Marquez 2. Morales 3. Barrera.

    His parents sort of oversaw the school district in his area and he said perhaps that’s how he could fight so much and get away with it without getting in trouble. He said he started to box seriously at age 16 and that Cuyo Hernandez was a great help in developing his technique. He seemed to be more proud of his technique and more impressed with boxers technique than power. I asked who he felt hit harder with him and Olivares and who was the greater Bantamweight. He said it’s for the people to say. He said Olivares was so beloved and outgoing and everyone loved him (as did he) whereas Carlos was more reserved but feels at his best purely as a bantamweight felt he was the best. He did add that he doesn’t like to sell any of his peers short and that it’s for others to decide these things. He said he was lucky that he never really got cuts and injuries like Olivares had in some fights like the Castillo re-match.

    That there’s far too many titles today but he also thinks there’s a lot of good fighters. He said Canelo is a good fighter and moves the needle and that Lomachenko is an incredible boxer. He also likes Estrada a lot.

    He said at the heights of his fame it was awesome to be champion, have recognition and that he perhaps should have used that and maybe moved to Los Angeles full-time but now that he’s very comfortable and lives a very nice, quiet life. He’s re-married after some very difficult periods and is very happy, peaceful and enjoying himself and has a small circle of real friends vs. the hangers on that led him down the wrong path and didn’t stay with him. He is the head of a gym in Mexico City which is funded by the Railroad Union. He said he doesn’t really do the day to day training of fighters but on occasion helps the fighters and gives pointers.

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    He’s actually a very nice guy, very humble and warm. He is fast witted and funny and speaks very well to the point you’d never guess he was an ex-fighter. He’s in good shape physically and mentally.
     
  11. salsanchezfan

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    Great stuff!
     
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  12. salsanchezfan

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    You should invite him to dinner and ask him.
     
  13. ChrisJS

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    He actually sparred a lot with Olivares.
     
  14. Cobra33

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    You know im not going to take anything away from Gomez- great fighter but Zarate always looked a little off in his bout with Gomez and I could never put my finger on why.
    Not saying Gomez wouldnt have won but Zarates story makes sense. Zarate looked like a zombie in that bout.
     
  15. ChrisJS

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    I agree and the same with Gomez in the Sanchez bout. The guy moving up didn’t have good preparations. Gomez’ condition was self inflicted (vs. Sanchez). The dominance perhaps showed that the bigger man would have won in both cases anyway but circumstances meant that both fights were far more dominant than they otherwise would have been.

    It’s a fight that Zarate still hasn’t fully gotten over. He said it’s the one fight that hurts the most. Gomez also has the same feelings on the Sanchez fight. The rivalry between Mexico-Puerto Rico was so intense. Zarate said it was really awful fighting there.