Questions for Floyd fans about the Pac/PEDs situation

first of all the amount of blood required fot the test is so miniscule it wont affect performance, and mayweather will be taking the same tests, so there goes point number 1. Secondly, hgh doesnt show up in urine samples only in blood so traditional forms of testing are outdated for the new forms of performance enhancers available, so there goes point number 2. Thirdly pacquiao, is being singled out because just floyd accused him but a number of professional boxers are questioning his subsequent rise through the weight divisions, its not about the weight but about the way since before the diaz fight his body has transformed in an unprecedented manner, in terms of muscle mass. Pacquiao is now under immense scrutiny because of the ever so shady wasys in which he has handled these accusations, a. he said he was scaredof needles, but he has tattoos, b. he said he was worried about fatigue, but mayweather is taking the same test, the same test that olympic athletes take the day before competitions so that point is stupid. Now there relying on the lame excuse that they dont believe mayweather should dictate things, pretty weak. For point 4 i think it is pretty obvious why SCHAEFER WAS AGAINST TESTING WITH MOSLEY, BECAUSE MOSLEY WAS GUILTY, THIS BY THE WAY IS THE SAME REASON PAC'S PEOPARE AGINST THIS STYLE OF TESTING WITH HIM. now to your last weak attempt to save your boy pacquiao, oscar was talking with his pride, not how he actually felt when he fought manny, i think everyone knows that, he was down playing pac against cotto to set up his guy mayweather to earn the larger cut during the mega fight. I think i just solved all of your problems.

 

Talk is cheap, my friend. The fights do the real talking.

They're focusing on one fight, one man. Your question can be answered in a few ways. Perhaps an overhaul is necessary for mega fights. Perhaps an absolute overhaul is ncessary. However, the fight date is on March 13th. In that timeframe you can't train and do a boxing overhaul.

Because there is a reasonable suspiscion. Personally, I don't believe pac is taking anything. And no, pac was not heavily favored before hand in most of his previous fights. If you were Floyd, better yet his camp, you wouldn't want to fight someone you honestly believed is on steroids.

Money, greed.. no ****? Who gives a ****, promoters are crooks. He wants the $$$ now.

Same **** as the previous question. Promoters are greedy mother****ers. Oscar is prideful. After losing a fight he tries to keep his dignity. Nowadays he just wants the $$$.

Your questions have such obvious answers, FFS.

 

Prove my points wrong.

I have a question:
Would you be willing to turn down 40 million dollars as well as ruin your reputation and legacy because of random blood testing?

 

First of all, the NSAC drug testing has been known to miss certain PED's, which is the whole reason Floyds camp is asking for a different kind of test which specifically targets said PED"s. Manny's obvious refusal of this testing is what is causing this suspicion, especially considering the random reasoning behind it. Manny's 1st reason: afraid of needles(debunked, he has tons of tattoos) . Manny's second reason: Doesn't want to be drained come fight night(debunked, they only take a few drops of blood). If any other fighter in the world demanded a drug test in the pre-fight negotiations, he would not receive so much criticism. I wish every fighter had to go through testing which could catch any and all PED's, why not start with the biggest fight around? Although, I do understand Manny not wanting Floyd to call any shots, but come on man, give a little get a little.

 

Those are all uneducated responses.
Scared of needles? When? When did he say it?
They are ok with random tests, by the NSAC.
Oscar changed his story after the fact, in light of recent accusations.
David diaz said "it wasn't so much the power, he was just too ****ing fast"
Cotto said "I couldnt see where the punches were coming from, he is very fast"

Nothing here indicates a steroided power house. Just a fast ass fight who knows how to box.

 

He isn't turning it down, Floyd has not responded to his NSAC compromise, so he is moving on. He is tired of waiting and playing games.
Mayweather ****ed this whole thing up by accusing Manny of taking steroids without a shred of evidence.

 

Oh my god. Will you idiots stop saying Manny said he is scared of needles?
None of you have read any articles on this, you're just trying to manipulate the story so it looks like Manny Pacquiao is trying to get away with something.
The only ****ing reason this conversation is even going on is because out of nowhere, Floyd Sr goes "I think he is on steroids"

 

LOL

pac is all about legacy... he can make 40 million in 3 fights. if he takes the 40M but isn't 100% come fight night then it's not worth it, pac is all about winning floyd is all about the money and nothing more. :deal



and btw pac didn't turned it down... he was willing to compromise. he is willing to take the test but ask for at least a week before the fight cut off.

 

PED's don't only increase power, they increase performance, thus the name Performance Enhancing.

 

I know you're an ignorant Pacquiao fan so I won't argue with you, but I'll at least answer these before I ignore you.

Guys have been posting articles on this website for a few days now of experts saying otherwise. If you know anything about Asafa Powell, you would know that he never performs well in big races. Even when he was the fastest man on the planet he rarely won any serious races and he never one an individual gold medal in any Olympics or World Championships. That's why he's always been criticized. Powell never responded well to pressure and was clearly just making another excuse. Would you really be dumb enough to argue with people that have studied and created these substances? Your answer will be: YES.

The fact that you're attempting to debate this shows you have no common sense. Testing an hour and a half before a fight and immediately after is useless. Athletes use specific cycles to cheat. You will most likely have the substances gone from your system before fight night if done correctly. Those test are truly worthless. If you took a PED after the first test it wouldn't have enough time to work anyway, so the second test is even more useless.

No ones forcing him, but he's still taking it. Pacquiao has moved up several weight classes and kept his same speed and power. He also is blowing up fighters that are much bigger than him. These things never happen. I've seen guys move up and beat larger opponents, but not physically bully and dominate much bigger fighters. Fighters moving up lose some speed and power which is natural. Look at Mayweather as an example. From 130 to 135 he lost some power and he lost even more as moved up to 147. From 140 to 147 he lost some speed and these things always happen. All clean fighters lose something when they move up in weight. Except for Pacquiao of course.

 

So the speed and stamina on display by Manny Pacquiao for the past 15 years was all produced by PEDs that he has been getting away with on every drug test he ever took?

Dude, you're not making much sense there.

 

How is he not turning it down? Floyd wants random testing and Pacquiao doesn't. Random testing works the best, so why would Floyd compromise?

Answer the question:
Would you be willing to turn down 40 million dollars as well as ruin your reputation and legacy because of random blood testing if you were clean?

 

he agreed to random blood tests...
Next question.