Not on my phone, it was made a thread on here. Everyone made a big stink but apparently everyone forgot.
Quillin has nothing to gain but an ass whooping, he won't even gain respect. He'll just be another Golovkin victim.
Yeah, but he says the "risk/reward" BS, so he really means it. (sarcasm)If the money was right he'd totally fight GGG, you guys! Honest!(sarcasm):rofl The reward will never be enough. 1.4 million wasn't enough to fight Matt Korobov. How much do you think he would want to get his jaw smashed through the back of his skull?:think
Nothing to go on but his word, whether you believe him or not is up to you. I'm sure he'd fought Golovkin for $50 million lol I disagree. And I'm not saying Golovkin is scared or cherry picks. No reason for him to fight Ward. Quillin and Golovkin gave the same excuse for different reasons. But Golovkin can somewhat be excused for it due to the weight. But willing to fight Chavez at 168 and not Ward is risk/reward, no other way to shake it.
**** you golovkin and ward don't fight in same weight class but qullin fights in the same class as golovkin
PQ sounds like other Haymon fighters. Haymon is the problem imo. PQ is just gullible which Haymon takes advantage of. He probably got Floyd to Convince PQ that his bs it true.
First off, you are making a false equivalence. GGG and Quillin are not even comparable, in regards to the context or situation. What you are implying with your reasoning here is that saying "i'm going to ****" as you head to your own restroom is the same as saying it as you drop your pants in the public square simply because the core form and intent is similar. However the situations, and how people might reasonably react to them are obviously quite different. Second, something you are forgetting is that Ward was actively pricing himself out of making a GGG fight. There isnt enough money there for both guys, is what has actually been said. This lies on Ward as well as GGG. I suppose its hypocritical to be willing to **** in your own restroom, but not in the public fountain :conf K2 wants 2m to leave 160 (is what they signed to fight Jr for), Ward wants 2m to fight anyone. (he wouldnt sign E-rod for less, and got it for that fight). That exceeds what HBO is reportedly willing to pay for the fight (that they arent terribly keen on making anyhow, blame HBO for that). Team Ward is not willing to take significantly less than GGG or face GGG for significantly less money than he got for E-rod. In other words, for there to be money there for both guys it has to transcend regular HBO and go PPV. Since expecting Ward to take a pay cut, nor expecting GGG to leave his division and own plans without a pay raise (that he would get from fighting other people at the weight) are both unreasonable, the fight cannot currently be made. Quillin on the other hand, would be making a career high 7 figure payday vs GGG. Of course Quillin would not even accept a career high 7 figure payday to defend his own belt versus a live body, let alone Golovkin. (fun fact, GGG opponents average higher payday than Quillin himself) So trying to compare the two fighters, or the circumstances and relevancy of their statements is absurd. Trying to find hypocrisy in similar sentiments situated in vastly differing circumstances is also absurd. Or: stop ****ing in the public fountain.
This "Golovkin high risk low reward"- statement has no logic what so ever. In what possible fight he could earn more? If he thinks he gets a crack against Cotto, Canelo or Chavez Jr he is dreaming. He hasn“t got the name, only right nationality. But if those names want to make big money they will fight GGG. And if not GGG they will choose to fight Lee. Quillin is high risk, low reward - opponent for Cotto, Canelo and Chavez Jr. His only option to get close to 7 figure payday is to fight GGG.
Again, I'm not talking about negotiations. Golovkin will take Chavez at 168 because it's more money/reward. He won't take Ward at 168, Ward is more risk, less reward. Otherwise he'd be saying "I want to fight Ward" like he says he wants to fight Chavez. I'm not talking about HBO, or contracts, or promoters, or what offers were made. Golovkin will fight Chavez at 168 but not Ward because he can make more money with Chavez than Ward. Hence, risk vs reward. Break it down all you want, it's still risk vs reward. I'm not saying Quillin and Golovkin are the same.
You guys are misunderstanding. Whether Ward is willing or able is irrelevant. Golovkin will only take big money or PPV fights at 168 because it's more rewarding, more dangerous fighters. Quillin says there's not enough reward in fighting Golovkin, a dangerous fighter. Whether he's scared or not is irrelevant. All of the offers and circumstances are irrelevant. Fact is, Quillin/Golovkin said they won't fight Golovkin/Ward because they want more money. I didn't say they're both are ducking or scared. Quillin is ducking because Golovkin is in his weight class, he cannot be excused. Golovkin, technically is ducking Ward (because he'd fight Chavez) but can be excused because of the weight class difference.
what we take issue with is you trying to compare what is going on with golovkin and ward to what is going on with qullin **** you quillin is a ***** flat out