Quinton "Rampage" Jackson vs. Anderson "The Spider" Silva

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  1. porprock

    porprock New Member Full Member

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    I think this would be the best fight in MMA history. I think they should meet at a catch weight of say 200 pounds, but I still think Silva could beat Jackson at his present weight. What do you think?

    I know Rampage is bigger and stronger, but keep in mind that Silva submitted Dan Henderson and Quinton only decisioned him :eek:
     
  2. Koa

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    Dan Henderson is a far more solid fighter than Rampage.. The difference is, Rampage doesn't have his head up his ass and comes in with solid game plans, where Henderson just shows up..

    You look at Henersons skillset and level of ability, really no excuse for his loss. He would beat Silva if he had a solid gameplan.
     
  3. ufoalf

    ufoalf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He beat him first round. I dunno wtf he was doing 2nd round...
     
  4. jimmie

    jimmie Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Id pick Silva by TKO 2. Silvas main strength is the Thai Clinch and we all know that Shogun and Wanderlei nearly murdered Rampage in the clinch 3 different times.
     
  5. Koa

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    Yeah.. He has everything needed to be a world beater and absolutely dominant, except for a gameplan. I like that in a sense because it makes for great fight potential and not fights that end up being stalemates on the ground.. But when you fight against a guy as good as someone like Silva, or Rampage, you need a solid gameplan, not just hope to hit a homerun.
     
  6. Koa

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    Yeah, but Silva is nowhere near as strong as Wand or Shogun. You need to have some serious power to keep a powerful guy from taking you down.. Rampage had no gameplan against Silva or Shogun.

    Trading with Silva, when you have a ground game like Rampage isn't that smart.. Also, Rampage has the advantage of full blown gnp.. Elbows included.. Only a matter of time before we see him just start mauling guys on the ground. He surprised me with how good technically he can be on the ground in his fight with Henderson actually.
     
  7. porprock

    porprock New Member Full Member

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    I agree with you buddy ;) Silva would knee Mr. Jackson's head off! :rasta
     
  8. porprock

    porprock New Member Full Member

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    Anderson looks like a wet noodle, but his power is very deceptive. He might not have all the fancy muscles like Quinton, but he's very strong! :nono
     
  9. jimmie

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    Hes no that strong based on what ? Rich Franklin is one of the strongest guys in the history of 185 and he couldnt seem to remove himself from a Thai clinch not even close. I guess its possible Rampage could GNP Silva to death but almost every fight Silva has been in the UFC recently Marquardt,Franklin 2,Lutter,Henderson they have gotten him down pretty easily but did praticually nothing on the ground(I honestly think Silva was playing a bit of possem vs Lutter) I know Rampage is stronger and has better GNP then any of them 4 men I listed but im just going on what ive seen in the fights and thats Silva seems to be almost untouchable on the ground. Sure you can get him down but the takedown means nothing if he finds a way to submitt you or scramble back to the feet and **** you inside a clinch.
     
  10. am0kgonzo

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  11. Koa

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    Wrestlers have a different calibre of strength and explosiveness than other types of fighters. Someone like Wand, Shogun, or Anderson are Thai Clinch, Jiu Jitsu specialists.. Jiu Jitsu is more of a finesse type of game than it is a power game.. A Thai Clinch does require some strength, but it's more about mastering that specific technique and using control than it is about using raw power. Not saying it doesn't require strength, saying its more about technique, leverage, and height has a lot to do with it as well..

    In Judo for example, you don't specialize in raw power, but instead specializing in balance, manipulation and quickness. Jiu Jitsu fighters don't necessarily need to be super strong, but what helps is being very flexible.. Wrestling is more about having fast explosive movements and raw power.. Thats just how it breaks down..

    Anderson Silva is taller than just about every opponent he has faced, so that thai clinch works wonders for him. Great striking from the outside allows him to dominate from range, or dominate inside standing.. His Jiu Jitsu is more a compliment to his striking.. Its very good Jiu Jitsu, but is he among the best in the world at BJJ?

    Dan Henderson is world class wrestler, translates his ground abilities very well.. His wrestling compliments his striking ability.. People tend to be wary of the takedown or under-estimate his striking and that has worked for him in the past.. But that mindset plays right into the type of Fighter Anderson is.. If Henderson just dominated him on the ground, he takes away all of his great abilities standing.. Same with Rampage.
     
  12. jimmie

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    Nice intelligent post :good BUT im confused now. You just admitted Wandy,Shogun,Anderson are the same style and use the same skills and techniques but you didnt explain why Wandy or Shogun is stronger then Silva which is what I was orignally trying to figure out. Also your last part its smart until you confuse me agian. That Henderson mindset plays into Silva ? Henderson just dominated him on the ground ? Honestly im going on what I saw and ill watch it agian if need be but I seen Henderson get a takedown not do much with it exept control Silva there on the ground then in round 2 get picked apart standing and eventually submitted which goes into what you said Silva BJJ and striking compliment each other. Im just saying I hope you arent using Hendersons fight with Silva as a blueprint on how Rampage would do.
     
  13. Arthur

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    To be honest with you if silva and rampage fought ten times i'm pretty sure rampage takes it at least 9 times. He's much too strong for any 185 pound fighter.
     
  14. jimmie

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    Matt Lindland did pretty well :deal
     
  15. Tuffnutz

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    What you mean like Ninja? :lol:

    Anderson would destroy Ramapge and Rampage knows it.

    Rampage will always be a sucker for that Chute Boxe Muay Thai style and there's noone better at it than Anderson Silva.

    There's **** all left for Anderson at 185 and he should be jumping in the mix at 205.

    He deserves an immediate title shot and would take Rampages title with ease in his first fight at 205. :deal