Quitting

yeah, lots. he got battered for 9 rounds ( i think) wasnt going to win.

DD was still in it, some say he was winning and got stopped by a jab, he quit

 

It did take guts to do that, and i tip my hat to him for doing so.

 

Dubois lost. That's it. I just don't see the point of labelling him as a quitter. He was found wanting against a more experienced and very tough opponent.

This is why fighters need to progress against gradually tougher opponents. Not go from fighting tomato cans to a beast like Joyce (Gorman maybe a slight exception as at least he has some skills).

Dubois has never fought an opponent anywhere near Joyce's physicality and so has learnt very little of how to survive when up against it.


He can come back but needs much better match making this time.

 

Yer he should have got brain damage and died by a punch from a monster because his eye closed up. WTF does he need to see out of both eyes anywhay?? Just move you head bit the other way he will be able to see fine...

****en *****..

 

Thank you Frank for sticking this fight on BT Sport last night and best wishes to DDD for his forthcoming operation.

Well done Joe Joyce for his win and Big DDD for taking such a risky fight.

Now we have the usual pay per pudding in December to look forward to.

 

Yeah, I see that point.

I mean, he did quite. That fact cannot be erased and nor should it be. We can’t feel what he felt at the time. But the corner should know their man better than anyone. If they felt that he didn’t feel right at that stage or could see the injury for what we could see it for then they should have made the call. Dubois was massively in the fight but Joyce’s chin basically ruled out a KO at that point. So they probably should have seen their fighter tires with a bad eye at age 23 and thought “let’s not make him make a decision here”

But then maybe they thought he was fine. It’s hard to say. Watching it at the time I didn’t instinctively feel the end was near.

 

Juicy J didn't even actually quit he was trying to have a few extra seconds rest on the ropes and the ref waved it off.
He was obviously still going to take a pummeling if it contined mind you.

Dubois was a really bad quit job, can't get any clearer.
He hadn't been taking many big shots, just a heavy jab and he looked scared long before he took a knee.
Dubois was in a state of panic, he just needed to realise he could just move for a few round and he would have won on the cards easily.

He didn't need to brawl, ffs the cards had him a head by miles.

 

Interesting comparison, on one hand,
Joshua, triple alphabet belt holder and Olympic champ, gets skittled by an obese substitute.
On the other, in a 50-50 fight, untested Dubois, performing well, in a good fight, succumbs to continuous pounding on a badly damaged eye from an 18 stone, vastly more experienced opponent.
Subsequent diagnosis of the injury indicates, he did the right thing.
Boxing gets a bad enough rap as it is, without, possibly Dubois losing his sight in one eye.
Just check out the testimonial given to Jerry Quarry on You Tube and tell me Dubois did the wrong thing!

 

So because Joshua had 3 belts and an Olympic gold medal he couldn’t have got a severe injury? Interesting take.

 

One of the most intelligent posts I have read on this forum - sick of reading idiots who claim they would never quit....eating crisps and soda from their Mums basement

 

Daniel Dubois is a big young lump who hasnt faced adversity in the ring, i highly doubt he has. a coddled resume on the way up and a shock to the system.
A loss makes a man aswell. he will either prosper or fall from it.

although there are keyboard warriors around. id comfortably say given the circumstances, after all that gruelling training and the prizes on the line after winning such fight, alot of people who have boxed would have not quit in that situation.

Joyce would not have quit in that situation, i can assure you that!!

 

The corner knew there was something up. Whispering to him.

They let him down big time. If his corner pull him out they get a little bit of stick but sense probably prevails, now he’s (possibly) damaged mentally.

 

Dubois completely emptied his gas tank in the 2nd, 3rd and 5th rounds going all out for the KO. From the 6th onwards he looked like he had punched himself out.

I think he was as much done physically as he was done because he could only see out of one eye.

He really believed in his own hype and that no one could take his power.

The fight showed how how he wasn’t anywhere near ready to be fighting on the level of Joe Joyce.

 

I agree with this.

Dubois went balls to the wall on front foot raids, full blown, to knock out Joyce in rounds 2, 3 and 5.

By round 6 he was done, and reduced to being on end of Joyce's jab with no backfoot game to speak of and no plan B.

How on earth his trainer let him go into a fight of this magnitude with no plan B is beyond me.

He would have been stopped even without the eye damage in my view. The eye damage just meant he quit before being stopped due to exhaustion and cumulative damage of being busted up.

Joyce was opening up with right hands in the 9th, as nothing was coming back at him... you knew it was over at that point.