Quotes about Wilder from prominent trainers and sparring partners

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  1. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You don't get to push your interpretation on to Wilder's mentality. He said it wants to kill a guy in the ring, he's a POS, whether for show or not. Deaths in boxing are never what anyone wants.
     
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  2. Dubblechin

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    Ah, after another long slog of a heavyweight fight, and another split decision ... it's nice to see people ARE FINALLY realizing what they had in Wilder (now that he's gone).

    Gotta love those heavyweights who don't leave results up to the judges.

    Of course, there's always got to be someone to cross the finish line LAST.

    I see we still have the same guys five years later going, "What about Szpilka?" (For some reason forgetting Szpilka was carried out of the ring on a stretcher with an oxygen mask on and rushed to the hospital ... and could never take a punch again.)

    But some dolts never catch on.

    The people who fought and sparred with him learned fairly early.

    Tyson Fury: "Deontay Wilder is the most fiercest puncher in boxing history, in heavyweight division history. And I saw that and I felt it."

    Luis Ortiz: "His (Wilder's) right hand is more powerful then one could imagine. His power is like a whip type of punch, like Thomas Hearns. He's got long arms ya know."

    David Haye: "His (Wilder's) punch power is 10 out of 10, that’s it. I don’t know how else to say it. You know when you’ve been hit by him. It’s very different to anyone else. He is the hardest puncher I’ve ever been in the ring with."

    Johann Duhaupas: "He has a big heart and of course a lot of punch — more than any opponent I ever met in combat or in sparring. There’s no question he is the hardest puncher in the division. His biggest weakness is his passion. He wants it all so he makes mistakes and exposes himself. But his power has always saved him.”

    Eric Molina: “Wilder could knock out a bull if he hit it in the head. If he touches anybody with that right hand, on any part of the head, they’re going to dance or go down and go to sleep. It is what it is. I’ve been in there with the man who I think is the biggest puncher in boxing history in Deontay Wilder. Once you’ve faced those guys, everybody else is… come on.”

    Audley Harrison: "Hard as nails. I had him in camp for about five weeks to prepare me for David Price. He caught me with this shot and it nearly detached my retina and suddenly I had to stop training for eight or nine days. Aside from the power, Wilder is unique. He is very tall, very fast and very unorthodox in how he moves – you cannot pin him down. His punches come at you so fast."
     
  3. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Anyone that’s been in a ring knows there’s more to Wilder than power - even if we still acknowledge his MANY short comings…

    Does this mean he’d be a world champion without the power? Almost definitely not - but uh… he has the power, and several other assets that complement it well… even if some are unorthodox…

    Contrary to non-fighting ass fans beliefs - it ain’t easy winning 40+ pro fights (at any level), and a medal at the Olympics…. And it takes more than “just power” to do it…
     
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  4. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That’s not his fault, blame his management/promoter, also blame other top fighters management/promoter, it’s not as easy as you think to make those fights, but I agree I would of liked to see him fight more top guys. Wilder did what he should do with those he fought which is stopping them all.
     
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  5. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You’re right, we have nothing to discuss if you don’t understand that that’s a part of the show, have a good one snowflake.
     
  6. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He declined a fight w/ Wlad as a titlist. Imagine having a title, then saying you aren't ready for a peer.
     
  7. Saintpat

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    I understand some people don’t like him. Some of their reasons make sense, but go back before any of those reasons existed (before he said he wanted a body, before … whatever) and on this very forum you can find massive hate threads … almost from the moment he turned pro. So that is what it is … some people are finding retroactive reasons to hate him when they never liked him nor ever were going to like him in the first place.

    As a fighter, though, his flaws are what makes him exciting and interesting.

    It’s OK to criticize that he loses rounds but that makes it intriguing — will he be able to pull the trigger and pull it out or not? And to me, I’d rather win by knockout than win all the rounds before getting knocked out.

    He’s a power puncher who ends up in a lot of fights with tension because he’s not dominating rounds. To me he’d be less exciting if he was winning every round before ending it by KO.
     
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  8. The Real Lance

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    he's heavily criticized for his garbage resume as a long time title holder. Should have never gotten to that point
     
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  9. Saintpat

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    Again, for some the criticisms began far before you could make judgments about who he was fighting. For some reason, for some people they made up their minds early not to like him.
     
  10. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't know about that. Wasn't taking notes 7 years ago. With his level of comp, it was warranted. Hell, I was a fan early on. The US needed a big heavy hitting HW. He just did NOTHING to capitalize on any of that and fought less than stellar comp. THAT is the main source of the scorn. The stuff about killing someone in the ring, all the excuses post Fury...those just added to it.
     
  11. Bubba

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    Wow! Abel Sanchez is so salty!

    Hope Gassiev doesn't leave him, too!
     
  12. AlwaysFirst

    AlwaysFirst Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Did he openly say that or did his management say that?
     
  13. ShortRound

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    "who spent his EXP points exclusively on the "Straight Right.”

    Read the quotes again, there are far more attributes than "right hand power". You could probably think of a few others too, if you put your mind to it.

    "Tyson Fury spent 30+ minutes boxing his ears off in their first fight"

    Fury was consistently nicking rounds (though considering it was in America that wasn't good enough due to the close nature of many of the rounds and Fury must have known that his was a risky strategy as the B-side). "Boxing his ears off" is an overstatement, Fury-Chisora 2 is an example of that.

    "Fury established the blueprint to beat Wilder"

    There's no blueprint unless you have the attributes to carry it out. Many fighters tried to pressure Wilder prior to Fury and it didn't go well for them.

    "Wilder is no longer the fighter those people made quotes about"

    Probably not but it remains to be seen and even if he's diminished he will still be very dangerous.
     
  14. ShortRound

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    Read the quotes again.
     
  15. ShortRound

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    Wilder's fought "top 7" opponents on six occasions and in five of his six fights since 2018. He's coming back in October, apparently against Helenius and then hopefully Ruiz, who will be "top 5" if he beats Ortiz.