R by R scoring of the Valuev-Haye fight. Valuev won.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by jacklondon, Jun 16, 2011.


  1. Muchmoore

    Muchmoore Guest

    Valuev landed ****ing nothing.
     
  2. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    i was hoping haye would win this fight because i thought it'd be better for the division but i had valuev winning 9 rds to 3. this wasn't close but you knew haye was going to get the decision.
     
  3. jacklondon

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    The fight is available on youtube, ******. But than what should people believe, their own lying eyes or...you and your bullshitting butt buddies here?
     
  4. jacklondon

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    How could you know that? Valuev was winning that pathetic excuse for a fight, even according to the pro-Haye British tv team, and the fight was being held in Valuev's home territory, and traditionally a challenger needs to win DECISIVELY to take a belt away from a champ, especially on his own turf, so how would you know that?

    Apparently Haye knew in advance since the dumb **** didn't even have the sense to pretend to be awaiting the decision but started celebrating first. And apparently Valuev and his team knew in advance too because they evinced no outrage or shock or surprise at all but just stood there sucking on their thumbs.

    Best case scenario, assuming Valuev was really even trying to win - I figure they told him that if he couldn't KO Haye they would give the decision to Haye.
     
  5. FrochFan7

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    Who gives a toss? Most people know it was a pretend world title fight anyway.
     
  6. kmac

    kmac On permanent vacation Full Member

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    don king was involved and had a piece of haye if he won the belt. haye is a brit and is going to generate way more money than valuev ever could because of the brit fan base. i'm not trying to say this is a conspiracy theory or anything like that but it was obvious to me even before the fight started. i agree with the rest of what you wrote.
     
  7. Muchmoore

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    I have it on DVD, Valuev landed no actual punches. He did manage to touch his face a few times but that was about it.

    Learn to watch boxing and realize boxing isn't a rocky film. Valuev was reduced to haplessly slapping.
     
  8. jacklondon

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    Which is what I've been tryin to tell ya.

    Haye and his handlers are trying to reduce the sport of boxing to a Vince McMahon's "sports entertainment" wrasslin show complete with pre-scripted fights, like this one and Harrison, and assholes pounding on their own chest.
     
  9. jacklondon

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    You were very perceptive then. It's all about money. Also no doubt they knew that Valuev was sick and probably wouldn't be able to fight any more. Valuev is no angel either. He was mixed up with the Russian mobs and they guided him to his championship.
     
  10. Jack

    Jack Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don't think Valuev landed a single punch. If you think he won, you know nothing about boxing.
     
  11. FrochFan7

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    Not really. Boxing's already been reduced to more entertainment than sport with the number of titles. Haye has shown more ambition to genuinely unify the division than anyone else since Lennox Lewis. That Valuev fight was only 18 months ago.

    And on July 2nd we have the Heavyweight Championship of the World being contested between two well conditioned, primed athletes. Enjoy it rather than just bitching about who's done what in the past :good
     
  12. conraddobler

    conraddobler Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Jack London (no relation) wrote: "Also, why did Haye start celebrating before the decision was rendered?"

    Seriously?

    It's customary for boxers to do this, even when they know they have lost.
     
  13. jacklondon

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    Which is more than Haye did with the exception of that one single good punch at the end. Also you need to score fights for aggressiveness and if one fighter just wants to run away it's the ref's job to see to it that he stands and fights and the judges job to take that into consideration when scoring. Otherwise you could have a heavyweight fighting a featherweight and the faster little guy could just run away all night maybe tossing an occasional random pot shot, which is just what Haye did.
     
  14. jacklondon

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    Then if I don't neither do the guys who were running the British tv broadcast of the fight which is what I was watching.

    Anyway, just more name calling.
     
  15. jacklondon

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    I don't recall ever seeing anything like that in a close fight, a championship fight, a fight in the champs' own territory. In legit fights the fighters will normally wait around on pins and needles awaiting the judges' verdict.