R. Garcia, "Ortiz is a quitter he did it against Khan, Maidana and Gonzalez"

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  1. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    it's true...for whatever reason, the family backs robert up, not danny....

    i can't seem to put my finger on it yet though, mainly cause danny seems quiet, and cool.....so who knows
     
  2. Bazooka

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    Like Cotto quitting against Margarito, some say he quit which tech he did, but in reality he had it beaten out of him, Just as Maidana beat it out of Ortiz
     
  3. MrMagic

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    And Cotto left in shambles when he had gotten the hell beaten out of him, whereas Ortrees flopped over like a ***** and said "I dont think a 22 year old deserves to be punched like this"

    Mother ****er, why are you in the ring if you dont think you deserve getting punched? :rofl:lol:
     
  4. PrinceN

    PrinceN Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Bazooka do you not think Mayweather can beat the the heart and fight out of Ortiz? Maidana did it in a fight Ortiz was wining
     
  5. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    yup...he really does, and though an ******* in many peoples opinions, so does brandon....

    i mean, neither are wishing bad on vic, and neither seem to be talking ****...the only **** talking has came from a few guys from vics camp....and you can say vic too, since he said brandon isn't on his level.....


    idk, but vics attitude is really annoying and fake sometimes....kind of like a young oscar....trying to hard to be perfect, but when it's time to ace "badass", they completely suck at it......


    still rooting for him though
     
  6. MrMagic

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    Like I said when all this took off, he's having a hard time choosing between being Fernando Vargas and Oscar De La Hoya. :lol:

    He's just so fake you can FEEL IT. Fake as a three dollar bill.
     
  7. Hitta_Squadup

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    Robert has a very good stable of young fighters, I doubt he is missing Ortiz at all, once Floyd beats Vic that will be the last of his relevance...from what i read in that article if true then Ortiz is a true to life ***** boy, wanting to be babied be the only fighter, turning his back on a friend, lying...can't wait for this fight..
     
  8. Bazooka

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    Fabrication read that LA times article in which Robert himself says that Vics father made zero attempt to contact vic or be a part of his life now for a father that never left and your son is in another state you dont think he would check in to see how his sons doing? Would you as a father Freddy? be real here
    Danny didnt start ****, Robert sold out on Danny because Robert is acting like Vic was his personal property, A fighter has the right to choose who he wants to work with and a trainer should respect that.
    Obviously working with Danny was a much better fit for Ortiz so why not, its Ortiz's career he has to take the shots in there he has the right, so how should Robert be mad at Danny based on a decison that Vic made and how can he hate on Vic for wanting to work with a trainer who Vic feels is a better fit?
    These are human beings not slaves you dont own these guys just cus you train them
     
  9. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    :good
     
  10. freddy-wak

    freddy-wak M O D E R A T O R Full Member

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    plus, it's a well known fact that robert and papa garcia still get money from ortiz's contract....
     
  11. Pimp C

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    Bi-polar much?
     
  12. Bazooka

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    Honestly I think that interview gets blown out of hand all too often, I really think what vic was trying to say is that I am too young to be puttin myself through this take the loss live to fight another day....
    And honestly I agree with him in that sense, if the kid doesnt look out for himself he will end up like Vargas did.
    I understand that going out on your sheild is the thing to do in this sport, dont get me wrong but honestly Victor was going to get knocked out in that fight it was clear Maidana was on his way to a stoppage
    Cotto quit to he did so dont try and downplay that, alot of fighters have quit in this game and have also come back to do good things


    it can happen to any figher at any given time this is boxin
     
  13. twenty1

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    :deal this is all Victor has to do really....not beat him but get in his ass from time to time....maybe even knock Floyd down.
     
  14. Bazooka

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    Gimmpie How are you today? hows work going for ya?
     
  15. freddy-wak

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    Well, as a father my son would never be in that place as long as i'm alive...but, this aint a perfect world and not everyones the same...so if vics dad really did try his best to give vic an ok life, but vic wasn't satisfied and left, and being that he's a drunk, it doesn't surprise me one bit that he never tried to contact his son.....but that alone doesn't make everything vic has said "true"....and really, i dont care if it's true or not, what i care about is vic now, and as of lately his flip flopping of characters is really annoying.....just saying

    as far as the brother feud, I talked to robert myself about 4 years ago and he had mentioned some **** about vic...same **** he mentions now..that his a diva in the gym, and kind of annoying....if that's roberts bread and butter, why the hell would he dedicate his time to only "vic"...why would vic be so selfish and do that the the people that put him where he's at now....i mean, u just dont do that to people that literally saved your life IF IN FACT HIS STORY IS TRUE ABOUT HIS UPBRINGING......so i'm supposed to believe vic went thru hell as a kid, but now with a two story roof over him, a solid manager and promo team, he buckles under pressure cause he wants his trainer to only train him...come on now bro, there is something wrong with that picture....but what does it for me is that NO ONE in the family talks to danny, no one....that says a lot right there.....