Rahman Toney weights

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  1. ThaPunchez

    ThaPunchez New Member Full Member

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    By the sounds of things, he might as well have stayed fat, at least that way he would have kept his muscle. Considering all this talk about him being off and getting old, the added muscle loss wont do him any favours.I hope this isnt what has happend to Toney, however he still has top skills so maybe he might win.
     
    ThaPunchez, Jul 15, 2008
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  2. Bobby

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    Toney being fat was never a problem for me, ive seen guys that looked horrible but had good stamina, id rather he came in heavy and strong then light and weakened, like bowe did for the second golota fight, he looked so weak.

    btw- conditioner, do you have something to do with the rahman camp?
     
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  3. psychopath

    psychopath D' "X" Factor Full Member

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    Toney 226, Rahman 244

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    James "Lights Out" Toney (70-6-3, 43 KOs) looked to be in good shape for Wednesday night's "Last Chance" showdown against Hasim "The Rock" Rahman (45-6-2, 36 KOs) at the Pechanga Resort in Temecula, California. Toney weighed 226, his lowest weight since 2003. Rahman weighed 244.
     
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  4. Bazooka

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    Toney is not 226, seriously the man is not 226 if anything Rock is 226 and Toney is 244
     
    Bazooka, Jul 15, 2008
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  5. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I am Rahmans strength and conditioning coach. I know many will say my judgment might be biased because I work with Rahman. Well, I am biased in that I want Rock to win, but that's where my bias begins and ends. From a professional stand point Toney looks like a guy who lost a drmatic amount of weight in a short amount of time and did so not by fat loss but by sacrificing muscle. He had hanging fat in his midsection, looked dry, and flat. Also taking into account being off the steroids. Which presents a set of problems all in its own.
     
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  6. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    why is rock in the mid 240's? i feel his best weight shown from his career is about 230-235
     
    vargasfan1985, Jul 15, 2008
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  7. getup

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    yeah coach..,does he have a nutrionist?
     
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  8. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was down to 237 in camp, but he looked a little flat at that weight. He is not in his 20's anymore, and I don't see him at 230 ever again for a fight. He got real low for Holyfield and that was by far his worst performance. If you saw Rock face to face you would agree that 230 is to light. He is huge. He is the definition of big boned. Just a huge heavy frame. I am aiming for 240 lbs in his next fight should he beat Toney.
     
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  9. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    dont get me wrong im not a trainer and rahman has a huge frame and can carry roughly 240 but in a fight like this i expected him lighter. maybe he plans on leaning on toney a lot?

    anyway i still think rahman is focused. he knows he wins this. he may gte a title shot and if not is another stay busy fight away from one
     
    vargasfan1985, Jul 15, 2008
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  10. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    rahman was 227 in the holy fight cause bouie probably had him eating right. i mean this guy fought tua the first time in his 220's right? i thought rahman looked fine in the holy fight. had that hematoma not gotten him the fight was close. those 2 judges who had it 6-1 for holy were smoking. it was 5-2 or 4-3 in holy's favor

    thats a loss i bet rahman would love to avenge
     
    vargasfan1985, Jul 15, 2008
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  11. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    No, no nutritionist. He eats clean during camp. I don't emphasize weight to much. I emphasize being in shape. The weight loss is a natural by product of hard work. Rock boxed 150 rounds in 5 weeks. He boxed 12 rounds 4 times with a fresh guy rotated in every 4 rounds. We had all young fast guys. We did not use old washed up guys for sparring partners.
     
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  12. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Whoa your hate for Toney never stops.
     
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  13. vargasfan1985

    vargasfan1985 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    based on what you have seen do you expect rahman to be very busy and win the fight?
     
    vargasfan1985, Jul 15, 2008
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  14. Heavyrighthand

    Heavyrighthand Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :lol:

    That's what I was thinking.

    They've mistakenly gotten the weights reversed! :lol:

    No way does Toney look 226. Fat as hell, as usual.
     
    Heavyrighthand, Jul 15, 2008
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  15. conditioner101

    conditioner101 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    He was 227 because the only thing Bouie knew how to do with him was have him spar. According to Rock he sparred 6 days a week. He told me he had nothing against Holyfield.
     
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