Rahman vs Liston: Who has the size advantage?

I'm so there, dude.

 

Perhaps, but Liston's opposition was quite awful.

 

Sweet, a “follower” booked in advance. That’s a grand total of 1 thus far. I’m ready to bust a move.

 

And further down the Rabbit Hole he free falls……

…..falsely narrating, and histrionically so……delicious double talk….replete with “hateful”‘sentiments and “abusive” terminologies as he WOULD describe them IF NOT for the fact that it is he who *obsessively types out same throughout his posts of impossible length (POIL).

You need to get those POILs seen to.

Oh, and you never said I was a last word freak until I correctly identified you as same, funny about that - just more echoing.

Shoulders, shoulders, shoulders?? LOL. False and incomplete recounting - as usual. And again, just continue to ignore WHO has perpetuated the subject ever since through the frame of their own fragile ego and hyper sensitivities - a distorted and hypocritically applied lens to say the LEAST.

Yes, go back - * “obsessive” was just one of the accurate observations I made re yourself which you are now merely repeating back. Wonderful.

No one has had issue with my written expression at all - it’s fine - you’re getting even more desperate.

How about your writing? Not just to me but HOW many times have you replied - “No, that’s not what I meant, no, you’ve misunderstood, no, you’ve misinterpreted me, no, it seems you don’t understand “ - have a good re-read of your posts and also those going forward, you invoke that reply FAR more than the clearly intended “average” literary bear should need to or have to.

Oh, and also don’t kid yourself re your own structure and grammar in general…..employing magnificent, awe inspiring words such as “interlocutor” doesn’t pull up the notable slack otherwise.

And yes, in your world the terms like “heresay” and “listing” don’t have the same simple meanings as they do for the rest us - or at least they don’t when one is trying to back-pedal from yet more of their own highlighted error(s). Yes, a delicate ego often lends to such nonsensical refutations and equivocations.

Also, your comprehension leaves a lot to be desired - having to repeat simple concepts that you can’t or perhaps refuse to take on - lest it impugn you or your ego simply can’t handle acknowledging same.

Myself and the other fella haven’t engaged since - and even if we did, there would not be the type of “luggage” you obviously drag around with you.

So it’s highly irregular, perverse and more than revealing to your ABSOLUTE detriment for you to continually ref. an expired discussion that DIDN’T involve you - are you “endeavouring” to play the role of an “agitator”? -

Yes, it is more than obvious. And a disgruntled, previously rejected agitator at that.

And who exactly is “anybody” and “everybody” - your imaginary support group or one that you’re trying to muster for some sort of broader “standing”? Like anyone else is reading this anyway. LOL.

As to post length, yeah, sure. Just have a look - you clearly ante up BIG (relative to what you’re replying to) and also ignore the two parter I referenced - which was the crowning glory of your increasingly “longer replies” at each and every turn - and the length of your posts is NOT at all reflective of the “substance” therein. LOL.

Here we have you striving to have not just the first words (in my absence NO less) but also the last words and most words in between - quite the glutton.

Rather than succeeding in your strenuous, disingenuous and obsessive efforts to “sell” my being “triggered”, “ego driven”, ‘“angry”, “abusive” and “unable to move on”, etc., as you have obviously “tried” your best to do, you have, INSTEAD, only managed to prove ALL this to be 100% true of yourself, not I.

Well done. More than enough rope…just as you gave yourself before.

 

You are *extremely* repetitious, using many pat phrases absent specifics-but even when I repeatedly & politely ask you what some phrases mean-you ignore them. This is not rational discourse.
Neither is falsely conflating absent evidence long notes with being abusive or vicious. smh.

I never said my posts were not often long-although my last one was not relative to yours-but that it was crazy to complain about it, make very long posts-& likewise I never started the childish objection to replies. What I said in your self-immolating absence was minimal & restrained: & it would be only decent to appreciate I repeatedly wanted to lobby to get you back-& despite sometimes being malicious, including to me...You cannot even accept me having said nice things about you.
So extreme is your entitlement & animus that *you* clearly feel falsely entitled to the last word.
When you tried to get me to stop + even projected me needing it-yeah when only one guy keeps trying futile censorship, they have the problem.

Nobody seems to agree with you. Nobody believes I am anything but painfully sincere. It would be immature to just copy what you say-as you have done to me many times-& I think you are not lying-just unwilling to see who the person is & what they are saying!
You have been highly ego driven, easily triggered, angry & abusive to the point of being banned-& seem unrepentant.

Me saying you have misunderstood or are wrong or used a term inappropriately ina given context does not show my writing was to blame-it again broaches no substance, you could be wrong or terminally confused.
Like about shouldergate: I merely asked why you thought a (your) structure was favored. I have zero "insecruity", nor was I even critiquing you as wrong-just asking why. Me pointing out you can provide no back up yet invented stigma for me is like you never answering WHAT particular words mean...

For you it is all about Ego-an example is you are upset I am downing your writing ability.
Nah, fuhgettibout that it is senseless & petty to critique even my intent for using big words-I gave a few of your phrases for you to clarify-what can they possibly mean. You well know it is innocent, peaceful, even a lesser olive branch just to ask...
But you either cannot face that sometimes you throw up inpenetrable, disjointe word soups-&/or cannot pay enough attention to answer a civil question so you can be simply

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You *think* you need to repeat things-actually how about you may be by turns incorrect or your meaning opaque?
You are soooo easily triggered-as John Thomas implied but did not question my intent-that you will see "agitator" even though I was literally, repeatedly, & wanted to privately do the opposite-advocate for you.
This is being highly & so easily triggered.

Look you were correct that (very possibly) nobody is reading this anyway.
Since we continue & both at mucho length-only you hopelessly trying or hoping I will shut up-you must be able to have the insight to comprehend that we both could be labeled obsessive.

I tend to be long winded & focus on small details even in (& almost all are) friendly discussions, or refuting points say about whether someone must be juicing or other unfair conclusions.
The problem is you are unable to accept when someone fails to agree with you.
Or thinking they should shut up.
Or constantly assuming bad INTENT.
Or ignoring when they clearly have kind, helpful intentions.
Or being malicious & personally denigrating.

One sign that only you have this clear tone & motivation is not that we say the other guy is all wrong...
But while I can only be accused of being pedantic, you are continually MOCKING.
Taunting.
Only YOU never ever can admit errors.
Whether morally, like being extremely cruel & getting banned (ironically at much greater length than your interlocutor) ...
Or just admit factual mistakes.

What is more likely-that you are never wrong, & somehow although most every other good poster & intelligent person (& you are quite smart)...Can do these things, + acknowledge & say thanks for clearly excellent intentions, despite disagreements...

That without rationale somehow all of your attacks & mean & degrading comments & laughing AT people tone are, against all logic...
Somehow a virtue or remotely justified?

 

The SAME, long running, non-applicable, false and repetitive script resulting in the SAME error - FAILURE TO LOAD anything that is truthful, factual or relevant. All relevant points and refutations have already been made by me - YOU have not converged on any of them.

YOU are clearly OBSESSED with me and my posts otherwise. Just YOU, no one else. A fatal attraction as I aptly described it previously. YOUR propensity to speak FALSELY is chronic. Your habitual/compulsive conduct and speaking/narrating falsely resides very much in the pathological realm. Including, SIGNIFICANTLY, your repeated attempts to falsely "frame" yourself as both a righteous hero and much abused victim.

I've never read anyone endeavor to self promote/project their "preferred" character or "wounded" pride as you do. Very tell tale and very abnormal. As you have framed yourself (no one else has) I would have to conclude that canonization awaits you. Good luck with that.

I wisely and equitably CUT you off before, I did not communicate with you or speak of you - but you proved yourself incapable of dealing with that several times since, needing to speak of and/or to me - including your previous, PARANOIAC thread intrusion (prior to this one) which I've already referenced. The issues are ALL yours, your each and every post, proving it beyond any doubt.

 

Your reply at best avoids all details & challenges. However it is so divorced from reality that at least concerning me: you are clearly

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1) There are many points I repeatedly referenced that even unlike you, when I keep bringing them up-you fail to answer.
The most friendly, peaceful inquiries such as what *your* specific phrases can possibly mean.
There are more, but when you elide every detail while complaining about length-while often writing long posts too-my goodwill & efforts are in vain.

2) You have constructed an alternate reality completely opposed to our own world.
I could have had a proverbial Field Day when others said you were gone: instead I was very restrained, said good things about you in general when not/despite your personal abuse of me that got you banned when you deteriorated further with another interlocutor: instead among many things you showed malign neglect about was not only not referencing any details of our discussion: but repeatedly offering to lobby for your return!

3) I never said nor implied that I was a "hero", but you did literally victimize some including me-while I am diligent & scrupulous about not assigning pathology about you in real life-because you may mainly or only express your Dark Side here-your absurd insults include me being a "narcissistic sociopath".
Literally nobody else believes these kinds of bomb-throwing attacks when you get triggered.
Or will say I am anything else but painstakingly honest & sincere.

This is why nobody supports your argument, or when engaging me about it critiques my intentions.
It is a sad modern yet ironically tribal, often politically applied immaturity & dis-ease to assume the worst about those you disagree with: in this case against all reasonable evidence-thus very intolerant.

4) Instead you have been REPEATING much of what I proved about you-but just bitterly throwing out unsupported premises.

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YOU'VE written absolutely NOTHING AT ALL to discredit my last post (or any of my prior posts for that matter), rather, and IN FACT, your last tortured screed (along with all your other tortured screeds) has only served to yet again uphold and reinforce what I have written.

LESS is so much more and your persistent, self propelled and obsessive MORE (unparalleled and replete with the very abuse you bemoan) is so very much LESS .....save for how very much it negatively reflects on you, no one else.

YOU just keep giving yourself more, self incriminating, pathological rope..........AS IF anymore was needed. Your fatal attraction is beyond the pale. Save for putting you straight if you speak neg. to or of me, I have far better things to discuss with far better posters. Take a leaf, IF you're so empowered.

 

You basically just said "I am right, you are wrong", with virtually identical language, & no even broad indication about what is "incriminating".

THIS is obsessive. If you really had better things to do-or was not a SLAVE to getting what you projected upon me-getting the last word, which is a lost, self-destructive cause...
You would stop writing. Because you ignore reams of arguments you cannot contest.
And are under the illusion that mere length is bad-regardless of tone, decipherable meaning, or engaging most specifics!

I can site numerous abusive things you said-there is *nothing* I wrote that was remotely abusive.
Granted most all of the worst of it was to

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, & the things you wrote about me were not behavior-nor analyses supported by reasoning-it is not rational or normal to assign the diagnoses of say a serial killer (by your standards your really vicious attacks on him make you basically a serial killer in real life lol!)
To someone you know almsot nothing about, just because

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get extremely upset-even about the most mundane, friendly inquiries-whether about shouldergate, or when repeatedly, politely asked, failing to ever define what some inscrutable passages MEAN. *facepalm*.

Unlike me you never admit you are wrong about anything.
When being hyper-abusive & getting banned you are unrepentent. Not complaining when you CANNOT do so, or you get permanently removed is no virtue.
Nor any indication you learned anything-or grew.

You have no ability to admit the good actions or even intentions of others if you are "triggered"...
Nobody will or would debate that me repeatedly offering to go to bat to keep you around after saying something nice about you when it was thought you were Gone Forever-& offering no piling on or even details about our own contretemps-showed any motivation beyong being kind, ethical & peaceful.


The Fatal Attraction conceit is another absurd confabulation-although admittedly you may believe it.
But it is Divorced from Reality.
Since you are clearly intelligent, maybe very smart in abstract terms...
And it is *likely* that you are not seriously, clinically delusional overall/in real life...

Part of you

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that you are OCD about indulging the lower, hateful aspects of your character-at least online.
Just what you say about me when anybody else being rational would acknowledge & thank for at least good intent...
Shows you have a paranoid streal.
Admit it at least to yourself, since behavior is so much harder to change at our relatively advanced age.
Behavior becomes character, becomes destiny.

 

There is no such thing.

 

Ah you are great CT. Restrained, classy, factual.
I just checked & see that your 17th anniversary is coming up soon, I had not noted you have been here so long.
Given your considerable but not overwhelming # of posts per year, yet how many I have seen roughly since the pandemic, is it fair to say you have become far more active here-& maybe increasingly creative & inspiringly odd?

You are perfectly correct about the matter at hand.
However I do not expect you to know my own feeling or motivations here.
Certainly Pugguy seems mistaken that I seek what he projects-some variant of "victory", putting on appearances/posting for others, doing so due to being upset or out of ego.

However if you look at my posts since 2012 it is clear I show the same relentless tendency to anal-yze everything.
If he was as observant & not unseated by emotion as usual, instead of insane speculations of highly immplausible diagnoses that as pointed out do not even exist, he could have mused something like that I am "on the spectrum". That allusion would have been artful & at least seem to have a large ring of possible truth...As it is, if I say merely generously credit an unrelated post with a "like" instead of accepting a friendly gesture, he is prone to claim-but I am skeptical actually believes-he is being stalked lol!
Even my moralizing is pedantic recitation, which can be mistaken for an ego trip or getting-well the best word is triggered.

I address arguments for their own sake.
And because I believe what I feel The Truth should be out there & feel calmly compelled to tell someone in sometimes numbing detail.
Whether about a trivial academic argument, mythic match-ups, PEDs or unfair accusations/assumptions about their ubiquity.

It does not interfere with anything, also mild mental excercise while i say have a video on in the background.

 

I'd never noticed