Rampage Jackson vs. Wlad...

I would bet my car that Wlad can knock out Tim Slyvia under MMA rules.

 

He's too slow though.

Wlad would knock him out coming in.

Besides, the odds would be against Wlad and I would stand to make a killing.

 

couldnt of said it better myself I cant wait till this lame ass ufc craze is over

 

Boxers don't fare well under MMA rules -- and for good reason. Boxers are meticulously trained to fight using punches only for offense. In MMA, the sky is the limit. It's apples and oranges.

Fighting on the ground, even when it looks savage, carries within it many subtleties. I've seen a lot of good kickboxers taken to the ground, unable to correctly shift their weight or hook their opponnts legs with their own in self-defense, to be swiftly dealt with.

Example:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VN6PvPCrStI

 

Are you ****ing ******ed? How are olympic quality wrestlers not that good at wrestling?

Floyd can have all the athleticism and skill he wants, without the training that these athletes have, Floyd would get turned into ****ing ground beef, Zab Judah admits as much, Floyd himself admits as much, Bernard Hopkins admits as much, ODLH admits as much, any ****ing boxer with a brain (or without in Zab's case) admits as much, why the **** can't you?

And your argument about not being able to compete in the grappling sports makes no ****ing sense, as MMA pays much better than any grappling sport, it is the pro league for people from grappling backgrounds.

 

Their craft is MMA dumbass, it is what they are great at, it is something nobody else is better at, it is what they do.

 

listen you make decent points for your sport but answer me this why could someone like sapp be so successful and so unskilled at the same time To me it proves that any football player whos huge could fare well at mma level with little practice or skill under his belt remember when george foreman fought jerry quarry who was a former pro football player he destroyed him and looked to the ref to stop it george wasnt even trying and making him look bad since you made so many good points could you answer a question i think is good and needs to be answered

 

Nothing's a 100% certainty. just like there's no 100% certainty that a mma fighter would automatically get instantly owned under boxing rules.

but it's highly probable.

You say , nobody in mma has ever taken a real punch from a skilled athlete. I've got news for you. MMA fighters get koed with kicks in the face and are getting slammed on the canvas. a punch is nothing compared to some of the **** they have to endure.

also , yes , they "are professional athletes. (prove me wrong , i dare you).

You say that they are guys that weren't good enough in other disciplines so they ended up in mma? No , that's just you giving your uneducated opinion on something you have no idea about. But since you are a boxing fan , it's not your fault. you're just blindly defending the sport you love and shitting on the one you hate.

Hidehiko Yoshida is a gold judo olympic winner..
(used to fight in japan , in pride fc)

so is Nastula...(gold winner in judo)
(from pride fc , in japan)

Rulon Gardner is a gold olympic greco roman wrestling champ.
(fought in pride fc , japan)

Fedor emelianenko is a multi russian sambo champ (undefeated)
(used to fight in pride fc , japan)

Semmy schilt is a multi kickboxing champ (used to pariticpate in pride fc grand prix , in japan)

just to name a few...
recently...fedor had to fight matt lindland
Lindland is a silver medalist winner in greco roman wrestling.

In japan , we had a few pro boxers giving mma a try such as
Botha
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=003307&cat=boxer

Yosuke Nishijima
http://www.boxrec.com/boxer_display.php?boxer_id=022476

matt skelton
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=141021&cat=boxer

Jeremy williams
http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=004763&cat=boxer

and a bunch of others (i honestly don't remember them all)...

nobody with the athletism of floyd? sure there is.

but the fact that you're saying "PERIOD" proves that you've already made your mind. You don't want to learn anything. You just want your truth to be taken as a hard fact and ditch all the rest because they go against your way of thinking.

religious people tend to do that a lot.
you bring them science and facts...they bring you the bible and the qu'ran.

two different worlds...

 

Foreman isnt the best boxer but he is still skilled at his sport,his punching ability is mostly what hes known for,but has a great chin and suprisingly good stamana for his wieght. I dont really look at him in the same light as sapp seeing that sapp has little skill at all and well its true foreman aint the most skilled boxer he is still skilled at his trade while having one of the highest ko % of any other heavywieght champ somewhere around 88 %

 

Sapp has never beat anybody remotely worth a **** in MMA, the only big wins he has are in kickboxing, which is a hell of a lot closer to boxing than it is to MMA.

If you think any big football player can fight MMA, you must have missed big, athletic, roided out, football player Johnnie Morton getting knocked the **** out by a stand up comedian

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I dont really follow sapp I just remember seeing him on fox sports every once in a while and him being one of the big names in K1 He wouldnt last a round in a boxing match with a 20 heavywieght everyone of them felt harder punches than him all of his punches are arm punches you can see them coming a mile way plus his stamina is worst he wouldnt even be able to keep his hands up for 3 minutes in a boxing ring how long does he last in the octagon with the top fighters just curious

 

I think rampage would have a tough time taking him down i cant see him body slamming a 400 pound guy all muscle now I know lindell is regarded by ufc standards as a good boxer but i dont see it he was constantly getting beating too the punch against rampage the first fight and knocked out clearly by him the second time And rampage is far from a good boxer but well versed at wrestling so how did rampage with a kind off sloppy boxing style destroy lindell twice with mostly his hands could explain that im interested in knowing your views on that

 

I guess the way i see it is if your a good so called boxer you shouldnt be outboxed by a wrestler kinda like when couture destroyed slyvia wasnt couture known as strictly a wrestler pretty much I got another question for you who wins in a cage fight mike tyson 88 or lindell in his prime and you know who most people would pick

 

Mike would hit lindell with a hook he never felt before it would only 1 plus if he couldnt even see rampages punch in the second fight how would he see tysons coming? and if he used ufc gloves i believe tyson would break his hand but would almost certainly retire lindell alot people also dont know that theres alot of wrestling going on in the ring and judging by lindells physique he doesnt look half as strong as tyson In a street fight i would honestly bet my life tyson would win i just wish some of you guys could see how hard and fast some of these heavywieghts punch it would stun you

 

I agree with you size doesnt matter all that much but just before you said the reason why sapp does win is because of his freak like size and as far as tyson not hitting lindell in the first 10 seconds you got be joking if rampage could it im pretty sure tyson can ok what does lindell have to grab tysons leg or try some type of submission tactic he has to come in and your telling me tyson couldnt hit lindell on the inside your crazy the man was accurate as could be in 88 he wont miss thats just like me saying if shamrock had tyson in a ankle lock submission he wont submit of course he will just like if tyson threw a hook on the inside he wont that i assure