Random drug testing is effective in Europe - Sauerland mandates random testing!

What fact? That the USADA uses outdated testing with blood. The same blood test that has never caught one person. The fact that everyone that had been busted has been with the urine test. Those facts?

 

facts what facts you meathead they didn't say if it was blood or urine

 

Just how Shane Mosley got caught right?

How about people getting caught at the Olympics? By what? BLOOOOOOOD test.

This is from an article in NY Times:

"When Alex Rodriguez held a news conference last month to address his use of performance-enhancing drugs, he noted that he might be subject to a blood test at this month's World Baseball Classic. In fact, however, no player in the Classic will be subject to blood testing.

In baseball, blood testing has become synonymous with screening for human growth hormone, something that Major League Baseball does not do. Under baseball's drug-testing program, players are required to provide urine samples several times a year, but they do not have to provide blood.

There is no urine test available for HGH, and thus no way for baseball to determine how many players may be using it."

 

Even if urine testing is effective and blood-tests questionable, Pac needs to take the test to silence any doubters. If I was him and my legacy was on the line, and I wasn't doing funny-business, I would do it. Even if it means "Mayweather forced him." Who cares?

 

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I was replying to what you said, not him.

"dude you just owned your self. you basically said that you coudlnt tell if it was urine or blood testing that caught him. yet part of your conclusion is that random blood testing is needed because it will show substances that urine cant."

His conclusion is correct, random blood testing is needed as it picks up on things that urine tests miss, whether it was blood or urine that caught him out is irrelevant as a combination of both is most effective.

This is a fact backed up by the USADA.

 

dude please tell me you do realize the steroids mosely was taking were undetectable designer steroids.they could not be detected by blood or urine.the only way he got caught was when balco labs got raided and his doping scheduale was confiscated

 

Pac should do all the random blood-testing for the Clottey fight (just as a ****-you to Floyd and Golden Boy).

 

What is Pac going to do if they were to make random blood-testing the rule? Never fight again? That's where the future is going, no doubt.

 

Mosley passed because what he is using was not even known to the public. No test in the world would have caught it. You can't test for something you don't know about.

Back it up MFer. Show me the name of the Olympian busted with the blood test.

MLB does not do blood test nore does any other professional sports league in the US.

HGH without steroid is ****ing useless. The HGH helps them lose weight and grow but it is the roid that will grow the muscles.

Random urine test during training and offseason is what have been catching all the cheats.

And I'll ask you again. Give one name of an athlete busted with the blood test.

 

feast:

[ame]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_doping_cases_in_sport[/ame]

 

His point clearly is that random blood tests pick up things that urine tests won't, which has nothing to do with what test Navascues failed.

People seem to be clinging to the fact that it doesn't say if it was a blood test or not, that if it wasn't a blood test then it somehow vindicates Pac for refusing to take similar tests himself.

 

yes but its a conclusion based on the news..the whole point of the thread is that it supposedly supports random blood testing when he said himself that there was no information whether it was blood or urine that worked... is it really that hard to get?? ive repeated my self like 3 times

 

GODDAMN!!!!! I got tired of scrolling down.

 

The blood test is nothing. It doesn't catch anything the urine test doesn't. Clinging to the blood test as the holy grail for PED is just plain stupid. If they wanted to catch cheating in boxing they need to implement year round random testing, which the urine test will be more then enough. If you think the blood test will clean up the sport you are truly naive. There sure is a lot of talk about the blood catching this and that but so far it hasn't caught crap.