Random drug testing is effective in Europe - Sauerland mandates random testing!

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  1. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    now that you have been shown the source shut the **** up and admit u were wrong:hi::hat
     
  2. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    He's not going to...They never do. Even after Sheehan provided the article, *******s will not go away - only ******* I have respect for is PH|LLA.
     
  3. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    he didn't test positive for drugs it just showed that he had a blood transfusion which indicates he was hiding something :yep

    Astana said two distinct types of red blood cells were found in Vinokourov's sample indicating he had had a blood transfusion before Saturday's stage.
     
  4. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    That guy was caught cheating and he would have been caught with the testing procedure that Pacquiao proposed to Floyd. What is it that you Pac haters find so ****ing hard to understand?
     
  5. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    do your research before you talk bull**** man!
     
  6. Toontoon

    Toontoon Boxing Junkie banned

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    Hopefully this will clear it up, from Travis Tygart at the USADA...


    Q: And that includes both blood and urine testing?

    A: "Blood and urine but it's got to be an effective urine program. Again, just a couple tests here and there that everyone knows about, or 72-hour notice that you're going to be tested, or 48-hour notice -- it has to be true, no-notice testing. And it has to be a broad menu of tests. And they don't test for EPO. What was reported on Mosley is that he was using EPO. And he could use it without regard for being caught because they weren't testing it -- and there is a urine-based test for most EPO. So you've got to start with an effective urine program and an effective blood program. And the reason, to answer your specific question, that you need to do blood is because there are certain, and several, potent performance-enhancers that are not detected in the urine. Of those, human growth hormone being one; HBOC, which is synthetic hemoglobin; certain forms of EPO, like Micera; and then, the transfusions."

    Q: If you blood test, is urine testing necessary at all?

    A: "Yes, because there are certain things that you're not going to find in the blood, that you can only find in urine, like most forms of EPO, steroids, designer steroids, insulin. You have to have a combination of the two. Look, I'd love to have one strand of hair. From a cost and logistical standpoint, the simpler whatever we collect, the better. Not that collecting blood and urine are difficult, but you have to have the proper procedures in place, and account for the shipping, and the state that you need the samples, once collected, to remain in a preserved state where they can be accurately analyzed. You can build those programs. It doesn't take much. We obviously would prefer the simplest mechanism possible. But just pulling a strand of hair is not effective to protect a clean athlete's rights because there is so much that can't be detected in hair, or saliva, or other things."
     
  7. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::patsch

    You do realize blood transfusions aka blood doping is illegal correct?
     
  8. dodong

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    For blood doping, Pac would be transfusing hemoglobin rich red blood cell into his system which would help on his endurance on fight night.

    ... but he already agreed to be blood tested again right after the fight!? He's going to get caught if he does it.
     
  9. Wige247

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  10. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    ah ya dummy it doesn't say that steroids showed up in his blood sample just that he had a blood transfusion which means he did something he shouldn't have
     
  11. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    I DID LOOK AT UR LINK.....WHAT IS UR POINT? :huh
     
  12. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    dude how much of a liar are you, are you seriously gonna sit here and say "i've gone through 1/3 of that lists and they were all urine tests" :rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl what a boldface lie dude. You do realize Olympic athletes are subject to both blood and urine testing correct??? You do realize blood dopers can not be caught through urine tests correct? You do realize EPO, THG, and YES HGH can only be found through blood correct??

    "The only test currently available for HGH is a blood test that distinguishes growth hormone normally produced in the body from the type that is commercially available. In 2003, WADA officials concluded that HGH isn't detectable in a urine sample in a large enough proportion to make a test for it effective"


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  13. SoxNation

    SoxNation Well-Known Member Full Member

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    You might want to read this article.
     
  14. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    Andrej Kashechkin

    Alexei Cherepanov

    Claudia Pechstein
     
  15. DeanoFlash

    DeanoFlash Boxing Addict Full Member

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    who says????? what logic would lead you to deduce that.