Random drug testing is effective in Europe - Sauerland mandates random testing!

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  1. ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS

    ]V[ooSeKnUcKLeS YAHHHHH Full Member

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    Why do you completely ignore the 2008 Beijing olympics? BLOOD TESTING COMBINED WITH URINALYSIS IS THE MOST EFFECTIVE METHOD.
     
  2. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because facts make Pac look like an ass. :hey
     
  3. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    its more effective because it saves costs, not because it detects better than urinalysis alone. Thats the fact. The blood testing is used to screen candidates for the urine test.


    From the World Anti-Doping Agency website

    In June 2003, WADA’s Executive Committee accepted the results of an independent report stating that
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    This report, requested by WADA’s stakeholders and commissioned by the Agency to evaluate the validity of urinary and blood tests for detecting the presence of recombinant EPO, concluded that
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    . This report also recommended that urine testing be used in conjunction with blood screening for a variety of reasons, including
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    http://www.wada-ama.org/en/Resources1/Q-and-A/Q-A-EPO-Detection/


    You're the only one who looks like an ass, slick
     
  4. BOSTONREDSOX

    BOSTONREDSOX The Ghost Full Member

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    game,set and match:yep
     
  5. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Again, why do you harp on EPO? It is not for anyone to say. They test for what they test for. EPO is just ONE substance of MANY. There is a whole testing protocol to detect for many different markers.

    You keep harping on specifics.
     
  6. totsboy

    totsboy Active Member Full Member

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    Nothing to say because your being OWWWWWWWWWNNNNNNNNNNNEEEDDDD
     
  7. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    How so?:huh
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This is the same thing I am saying.

    If you go for a job dp they say, "We are going to do WEED testing."? They don't tell you which drug they are testing for. They test for a RANGE of drugs.

    These guys keep saying EPO or Roids. I nor do they have the expertise to say what he is on. The only thing that can be done is for him to submit to a testing regimen and get the results.

    If he is clean he would get that money. No man with a wife and kids turn down that much cash over a test he can pass.
     
  9. pejevan

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    Because among the classes of drugs being used for doping, only two in the early stages of doping technology, can be tested more acuurately using blood - HGH and EPO.

    However, as technology caught up, the GOLD STANDARD for testing EPO is using URINE and not BLOOD. While it is true that HGH is detected better using blood, the technology is as primitive as it can be simply because no one has ever, ever, ever tested positive with it, despite thousands being tested.

    The rest of the drugs can easily be tested using a urine specimen, since the active drug or its by-product or metabloite is easily detected using urine specimen, much more if the test is random.

    BTW, IOC uses both blood and urine test, however, urine test to blood test has close to a 4:1 ratio. If Blood test is so superior, why then would IOC do majority of their test using urine?

    The issue :::::

    Is the test better using random blood and urine vs. urine test, and one or two blood test???? No one has given any scientific basis on this issue except jsut plain conjectural, even among supposed experts in the field of doping.

    By scientific basis, I mean under strict clinical trial.
     
  10. pejevan

    pejevan inmate No. 1363917 Full Member

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    Why do I get the feeling that only Pac lost Money with the collapse of the fight???

    Because that is what I am getting from you.

    Mayweather lost Money as well.

    It is easy to say that if he accepted the terms the fight could have continued, likewise, if Pac consented.

    It is not like it is the first time Mayweather refused a multi-million fight - ODLH vs. FMJ 2???
     
  11. dodong

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    ... good one, did not know about this.
     
  12. BigBone

    BigBone Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Team Sauerland mandates random drug testing for his shows!

    German stable Sauerland Event just signed a new TV deal with ARD, and it mandates random drug testing for all boxers fighting on Sauerland events.

    HUGE RESPECT FOR SAUERLAND!

    This might be a groundbreaking deal, hopefully others will follow. Boxing, like any other sport, is not free of doping issues, but it's current testing is a joke, you can only fail in Nevada for example, if you are totally dumb. Random testing should be mandatory everywhere, both blood and urine.
     
  13. InHumanForm

    InHumanForm Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i dont know why people are upset about new random blood tests being involved in boxing. I guess it's the fact that mayweather Sr. was the one that brought it up, but aside from that what exactly is bad about wanting more stringent testing?
     
  14. sdsfinest22

    sdsfinest22 Pound 4 Pound Full Member

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    YET YOUR THE ****ING IDIOT SAID FLOYD WAS SCARED OF THE BEST..NOW HE FIGHTING SHANE AND HE STILL SCARED..UR POSTS ARE GARBAGE AND YOU GOT PROVED WRONG BY THE "ILLITERATE GOONS"..U SAID FLOYD WOULD NEVER FIGHT NOR SIGN TO FIGHT SHANE..PROVED UR STUPID ASS WRONG:rofl:rofl:rofl:rofl