Rank ATG Usyk, Wlad, and Vitali

Tough question.

Usyk has the one singular greatest accomplishment of becoming Undisputed. His record at heavyweight is mediocre. Weighed down by inactivity and pointless rematches.
Wlad has longevity, but does not have any great wins. Just a long string of wins against bad to mediocre fighters. A style based on entirely on fouling (excessive holding) does not endear him much.
Vitali might be the best fighter of the three, but also has no great wins. His best showing is a loss to a great.

I'd ranked them, I think it would be:
Wlad > Usyk > Vitali

I was really hopeful for Usyk when he became undisputed, but his run as champ has been thoroughly disappointing. He seemed like he'd be a fighting champ, but he lived long enough to see himself become another greedy belly. If we count his cruiser weight and that tournament, Usyk easily jumps into the first spot of these three.

 

P4P usyk hw wladimir

 

Why is fury rated so high? He didn't accomplish all that much. Is Joshua's resume really better than Povetkin's? Bias for British fighters has a lot to do with rankings.

 

I mean, look at Fury's resume. Klitschko was nearly 40. Wilder beat nobody, lost to every good fighter he fought. Chisora and Whyte likewise lost to most good fighters they fought.

Joshua has a better resume but it's not much stronger than Pov's if at all. Usyk's hw resume is overrated imo, Klitscko's underrated.

 

Wlad is #1 we're talking heavyweight record but overall it's Usyk

 

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Fury had wars with wilder and fat boy Andy had knocked the courage out of Aj

 

Everyone brings up Usyks cruiserweight resume and his amature record not as much as lomas but they do

 

And someone always shoots them down and says you can't use them for his heavyweight achievement. I sure didn't bring them up here.

 

Fury beat Wilder and Joshua had a very significant title reign.

 

Name one that was physcially big?

He needed a size advantage to keep them off with the jab.

 

Yea but fury had a war with wilder almost kod and Aj lost his aura and willingness to really fight after Ruiz both weren't the same not Usyks fault and I'll keep it 100 I chose both to beat Usyk

 

I am sure we will explore context here. Feel free to ask any questions you like.

And my opinion is not yours and I have listed mine.

I have alreayd directly answered this twice. It doesn't have to be...Byrd is not as good as Fury. Usyk's best is better than Wlad's best. His third best doesn't have to be.

This is going to be a Ring Magazine argument again and I am just not going down that rabbit hole. Ring Magazie rankins are not indicative of you they have to fight, and basically, they often suck too, as we saw with the recent comical overrating of Itauma. In any event, Dubois does not have to be better than Byrd. As Usyk's third best win, he'd have to be better than someone like Povetkin, and he is.

Byrd was pretty well shot for the second fight.

Dubois beat Hrgovic and Joshua leading up to Usyk. Bryd beat Williamson and McCall.

And again, no one said it was. Straw man.

Anda gain, P4P doesn't matter. His crusierweight fights don't matter. Joshua is BY FAR the better win.

Fury would be compared to the prime Byrd win. Since Usyk bet him twice, we shoudl be comparing Byrd 1 to Fury, and whomver you have at two...I have Haye,

In seven fights. World-class rematches are a thing in the is sport, not denyong fighters credit for them.

None of whom compare to what Fury or even Joshua has accomplished.

Agaisn, not really, because a lot of them were a product of a bad era and not any good.

The Dubois wins have already aged perfectly. He has beaten Joshua, Hrgovic, and Wardely--three champions himpself.

And for me, spending a decade beating up on guys not in your league of physical talent is not all that impressive. His best wins--Byrd, Povetkin, Haye, Chagaev, Sultan-- are all midgets with the exception of Byrd, have no real deep accomplishments at heavy

Losing the plot here, but if this is about Haye, no, his crusierweight accomplishments do no tmake him a better heavyweight win, unless we extend that same to Usyk.

Most insist that his cruiswerweight accomplishments don't count in terms of his hheavyweight greatness. If they do, then his legacy buries Wlad's. That is eleven wins over eight champions.

P4p, but not at heavy.

And again, I think I speak for most when I say that his p4p achievements don't have any bearing on his quality as a win at heavy. We can put it to a vote. I haven't got any problem, but I actually already did a vote on this and about 2/3 say that crusiserweight wind don't matter.

Fair enough, but he's not as big as Anthony Joshua. If you cna make the argument that he is a pound for pound grat coming up from cruiser and was 6'6' and blown up to 230, the argument might make sense. As it is, Joshua is a much better heavyweight win.

 

You didn't don't mean others don't

 

I polled it and about 2/3 say that cruiserweight fight sdon't count towards a heavyweight legacy.