Rank Barrera, Morales and Marquez

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by anj, Dec 11, 2012.


  1. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    :lol::lol::lol::patsch
     
  2. Manos de Hierro

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    :patsch
     
  3. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Quite a few years ago i would have laughed at my own comment as well, but JMM has done a lot since then.

    Only people stuck in the past fail to acknowledge this.
    If you want to compare resumes just on the line of when EM and MAB were still relevant than yes, but JMM remained relevant.
     
  4. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Ahh....so there was some sort of accident? well good to see you recovared the cognitive function to be able to use a computer and enjoy boxing :cool:

    (even if you do now think that beating Juan Diaz and a close to shot Casamayor is somehow better then beating a prime Hamed and prime Morales + beating a prime Barrera and a prime Pacquiao)
     
  5. JMP

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    I'd rate Marquez at the top now, but I'd favor Barrera to beat both at their 122/126 pound bests (despite him matching up worst with Pacquiao).
     
  6. PJ

    PJ Well-Known Member Full Member

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    out of mex

    JMM stops Mexico's reigning terror
     
  7. Daruf

    Daruf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Id argue it with you but i have seen your posts and you have always been 1 of the most biased and least informed people on this board.

    But if you actually believe that line of yours is even remotely accurate you need professional help.
     
  8. Arcane

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    Yes i'm biased....shocking...guy posts on internet boxing forum and isn't fair and balanced all the time :-(

    You were the one claiming JMM was ahead of EM and MAB based on resume (and longevity which one can't argue with) BEFORE the Pacquiao KO at that, I simply came up with names on JMM's resume that would likely fall towards his better accomplishments and then compared said names with those on EM and MAB's resume :think
     
  9. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    :good You're a good poster.

    Morales defeated a lesser version of Jones, a version that was coming off a stoppage loss to Kennedy Mckinney. And not to be pedantic, but to say a fighter is in his prime is to say he was at his absolute best Marco Antonio Barrera was not the finished article in '97. Far from it.
     
  10. Rumsfeld

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    It's ironic that so many people are, at least IMO, underrating Morales and Barrera. It almost seems as if some are simply ranking the trio of Mexican fighters based on how they fared against Pacquiaoi, as if that were the lone criteria.

    :smoke
     
  11. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    It's typically short-sighted. Some fight fans can only remember what happened the day before.
     
  12. Rumsfeld

    Rumsfeld Moderator Staff Member

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    Yeah, it definitely seems that way to me, and I can understand that the buzz surrounding JMM is still doing the rounds.

    To me, I think Barrera at his best beats both of them 122-130. I think he was the most complete overall package, but Morales was a warrior personified and JMM may have had the best tactical skill set of the bunch.

    It is definitely a tough trio to rank, but seeing people saying JMM is head & shoulders above the other two, no. I'm just not seeing it.
     
  13. Daruf

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    People have been slowly edging ahead JMM in front of the others for a while now.
    He went from being the most unappreciated and misunderstood to finally being recognized in recent years.

    He was either level or slightly ahead a years ago, and than the 3d fight robbery and than the KO pushes him ahead quite clearly.

    His resume alone stands pretty firm the fact hes doing it at 39 and still top 2 p4p that kind of longevity and dedication is something EM and MAB just lack.
     
  14. Imperial1

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    Can anyone be surprised by the polls..I mean an old Morals just lost Barrera hasn't been relevant in yrs and Marquez KO's Pacquio in their 4th fight so yeah that's real sound logic .Erase the previous body of work for what Marquez has done lately .Pretty normal around here.:bart
     
  15. Arcane

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    The bigger issue is that people on here have the memory of a goldfish and there's simply no way they could fully appreciate the achievements of a Barrera or even a Morales, sure they could watch some youtube videos and try to pass off how they like both guys when in reality all they've seen is some flashy highlight video of Barrera beating Hamed or round 12 of Pacquiao Morales 1. The complete landslide in the poll proves a lot, also the fact there's now a thread where people are voting for Wlad over Pacquiao as to who rates higher as an ATG :nut