Battling Levinsky was long in the tooth when Gene Tunney defeated him. Even after that victory, Tunney was not close to being ready to face the likes of Harry Greb or Tommy Gibbons, which became very apparent when he took an incredibly brutal beating in his first bout with Greb. - Chuck Johnston
Your first sentence was correct. You don't know enough. Norfolk vs Greb in 1921 was a ND fight. There was no official winner. News were split. How can you pick a winner without seeing the fight? The way fights are scored today Norfolk won or drew because he had a knockdown. News report ittsburgh Gazette-Times gave verdict to Norfolk. Ill. Boxing Record gave Norfolk 6 of 10 rounds. Norfolk, who was 17 1/2 pounds heavier than Greb, won four of the first five rounds, and scored a flash knockdown in round three, not hurting Greb. Greb won every one of the last five rounds. Greb "smothered him with a two-fisted attack," as Norfolk tired, and the Kid was "all at sea." Referee Yock Henniger said the next day that he would have given it to Greb if a decision was allowed. Norfolk suffered a badly cut eye. Apparently Greb held Norfolk in too much respect until he realized that the Kid could not hurt him. (Reports from the Pittsburgh Post.) It is sometimes said that Norfolk thumbed Greb in this fight, leading to his loss of sight in one eye. However, there is nothing in the account from the Post to indicate anything of that sort. According to Bill Paxton in The Fearless Harry Greb, a punch delivered by Norfolk in this fight may have initiated a retinal detachment which eventually caused Greb to lose his sight in the right eye. This idea is based on the fact that Greb reportedly started experiencing some unusual visual effects after this fight.
It isnt my aim to knock the resume of Harry Greb which was obviously a lot better than his official record. But it is interesting that a lot of people are picking fights for Greb that he didnt actually win. Looking through his official record at CBZ, the top 4 is pretty much set in stone. Tunney, Tommy Gibbons, Walker, Loughlan, with 5th Place probably going to Bill Brennan.
I' ll take this slow Rainman because we all know you have a problem with reading and writing. Greb was credited with the win and that' s why I included it , that and the fact he was conceding a lump of weight. Got it now? 1921-08-29 161¼ Kid Norfolk 178¾ 59 14 4 Forbes Field, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA W NWS 10/10 This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected This content is protected W NWS 10/10 Forbes Field, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA referee: Yock Henniger Pittsburgh Post, Pittsburgh Times, and AP gave out to Greb, Pittsburgh Gazette-Times gave verdict to Norfolk. Ill. Boxing Record gave Norfolk 6 of 10 rounds. Norfolk, who was 17 1/2 pounds heavier than Greb, won four of the first five rounds, and scored a flash knockdown in round three, not hurting Greb. Greb won every one of the last five rounds. Greb "smothered him with a two-fisted attack," as Norfolk tired, and the Kid was "all at sea." Referee Yock Henniger said the next day that he would have given it to Greb if a decision was allowed. Norfolk suffered a badly cut eye. Apparently Greb held Norfolk in too much respect until he realized that the Kid could not hurt him. (Reports from the Pittsburgh Post.) It is sometimes said that Norfolk thumbed Greb in this fight, leading to his loss of sight in one eye. However, there is nothing in the account from the Post to indicate anything of that sort. According to Bill Paxton in The Fearless Harry Greb, a punch delivered by Norfolk in this fight may have initiated a retinal detachment which eventually caused Greb to lose his sight in the right eye. This idea is based on the fact that Greb reportedly started experiencing some unusual visual effects after this fight. Do you know what is the most pathetic about your post? the fact that you continually trumpet a sparring session between Jack Johnson and Gun Boat Smith as a moral win for Smith and proof that he deserved a title shot,yet a NWS fight,[ to give it is CORRECT title,] in which the majority of the news papers AND the referee retrospectively awarded the decision to Greb is cause for you to try and make some, pathetic puerile point.. WTF does how fights are scored today have to do with a fight that happened nearly a century ago?:huh Would you like to discuss how the Johnson v Hart fight would be scored today? No? Didn't think so, you hypoctitical ass! You have been humiliated daily on this thread and no one deserves it more.
If we are being pedantic, he certainly didn't win any fight with Loughlan, because he never fought anyone of that name.