Rank the British Heavyweights

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  1. Scissors

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    We will leave Joshua and Fury our of it so we don’t get the thread dragged in to a numbers/PPV/USA/ticket sales/real belt fake belt and all the other arguments that come with it.

    Leaves us with

    Dubois, Gorman, Joyce, Price, Allen, Whyte, Chisora, Hughie.

    Whyte is the more established but I think Dubois is just Joshua mkII and we know how easy he dealt with him. Joshua got distracted with the personal beef and the cafuffle at the end of round 1 - a round Whyte was lucky to survive. Dubois got no distractions. He takes Dillian out within 6. So he’s my number 1.

    Next is a hard pick. Joyce or Whyte. I don’t know if Whyte would be able to cope with Joyce’s relentlessness. We’ve seen him rocked a few times and Joyce would clip him. Joyce eats shots for fun though, how would he react to a big left from Whyte? I’ll give Whyte 2 and Joyce 3.

    Then you’ve got Chisora, Hughie and Gorman. This applies to all 3 of them - “it depends what version turns up”.

    Last but not least Price and Allen. Ive got to favour Pricey for his better all round boxing.

    1. Dubois
    2. Whyte
    3. Joyce
    4. Chisora
    5. Biggie
    6. Gorman
    7. Price
    8. Allen
     
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    Very hard to put Dubois over Whyte based on who they have fought.
     
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    I don’t think it is. He’s been rocked by much lesser punchers.
     
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    Whyte on experience alone surely has to be favoured above Dubois. I think Dubois is a serious talent, and he's improving every fight, but he's not above Whyte yet.

    Put them in the ring tomorrow and I would worry there's a chance Dubois pulls a Gorman. Whyte is legit top 5-6 heavyweight in the world and he's punched his way to that position with some solid wins.

    In fact at this point in time I would maybe have the Juggernaut and Hughie above Dubois. The difference being, neither of those men are the future of the division, Dubois could be if he's steered right over 3-4 years
     
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    I don't rank Allen because he is a journeyman
     
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    And Dubois got stung by Lartey. Who is much worse than anyone Whyte has been rocked by. Even if Whyte went life and death with all of his fights and won he has still beaten better opposition and there’s no way Dubois is currently the third best heavy based off beating Gorman
     
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    His experience isn’t that great.

    Whyte went the distance with Helenius. You’d expect Dubois to flatten him in 6. He went 23 rounds with Chisora and was arguably down over them rounds before he got the KO.

    6 rounds with Browne. Dubois would do him in 2. 10 with Allen, 10 with Lewison.

    The only decent win on his resumé for me is the Parker one and even still he was knocked down in that, clung in for dear life and was accused of cheating to get the win.
     
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    Big difference though is that Whyte has been in with those men, and he's pulled off the win. Dubois hasn't. Yes he looks a real talent, and Browne, Helenius etc are the likes of the people he should look to fighting over the next 3-4 fights to help his learning and development. But I'm just not convinced he's ready for Whyte right now, therefore I favour him. It just strikes me as a massive leap for an 11 fight novice, Whyte is vastly experienced for a fighter who has never had a world title shot, and I think that trumps Dubois at this point in time.
     
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    I don’t think Browne does anything for Dubois at this point. Think he could be a good opponent for Gorman actually.

    Helenius is perfect for Dubois next fight.
     
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    The Juggernaut steams through Whyte.

    Book it
     
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    Where's 2Pac ?
     
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    Haha. Didn’t even notice that.
     
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    Yeah it wouldn’t surprise me. Joyce just eats too much though. Against a bigger puncher he’s out of there.
     
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    Okay, the British heavyweights aside from Tyson Fury and Anthony Joshua, should be ranked like this :

    1. Dillian Whyte
    2. Dereck Chisora
    3. Hughie Fury
    4. Daniel Dubois
    5. Joe Joyce
     
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    This is just my pure opinion, not based on current records or recent fights. Just my personal opinion as to how they rank:

    1. Dubois
    2. Hughie Fury
    3. Whyte
    4. Chisora
    5. Gorman
    6. Joyce
    7. Allen
    8. Price

    I honestly would even put Okolie ahead of Price and Allen because I think he could step up to HW now and beat the pair of them and I'm not even a fan of Okolie.

    I still rate Gorman despite the loss last night.
     
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