Rank the following 8 fighters.

PP, when you say if Basilio was 'really' great, do you mean really as in 'actually', or as in 'a lot'? Because there's no denying he was great is there? Let's be honest.

 

i don't mind the debate of how great he really was, but debating whether he was great at all i think is a bit silly. You can see it by watching him in form imo,

 

Jones overall competition or his LHW competition? Jones LHW comp is underrated, Tarver very good 6'3 southpaw with fast hands and power, Spinks only has Qawi who's better. Gonzalez/Woods/Reggie Johnson/Virgil Hill/McCallum all world champions future/present/past. They were all completely dominated them hardly losing a round hence people assume they were ****, they weren't. Then there's Harding who beat Tarver and Hall who was up against Darius when he was stopped against his wishes

So thats just LHW, from a man who fought as 147lb in the amateurs, started his pro career at 154 and has a great career prior to fighting at 175

Spinks doesn't have a win on par with Toney/Hopkins. Holmes is better than Ruiz but Spinks arguably lost both of those fights and at least 1. Jones dominated Ruiz

 

Depends on your definition of great doesn't it? I don't think he's any more great than Tarver or Norris in their respective beating up on old greats. HE beat a 38yo Robinson a while before he lost to Pender, do you consider Pender to be great? Basilo beat a shell of Robinson and then lost to that same shell

 

Yes and you can't debate because your as thick as pig **** repressed homosexual virgin

As for Larry Holmes, yes I thought it was 1-1, the first is a qualty win imo, Williams rightfully beat a younger Holmes though, how do you rate him if you are in anyway consistant?

 

Yeah, and he wasn't at his best weight either, he was moving up in weight to fight the middleweight champion of the world, who was still world class at the very least at that point in his career. Like i said, if you're debating how great he was, and saying you don't think he's as great as said to be, i have no issue with that. But if we're trying to say he's not great at all, then yes i disagree. Plenty of fighters are seen as great who don't have a top tier win on their ledger, but have good ones that add up. If you use that rule for others then it must be applied to Basilio as well. Definitely a great fighter for me, i don't see the issue.

 

Yeah, there should be limits to how you can joke about Winona. Sure, Lindsay Lohan - but miss Ryder is pure human nobility.

Probably not the right place to admit this, but I just saw her in "The strange lives of Pippa Lee" and she delivered, as usual.